Bipolar disease is often a terminal one, which was the case with Erik. He knows all too well about this disease and explains its spiritual basis.
Me: Let’s talk about something you suffered with in life, Erik. Bipolar disorder. Some are aggressive and some are not, so it’d be great if you could cover both.
Jamie: I’m trying to get him on track.
Me: Good luck!
Jamie: What he’s talking about is how different it is in each person. He’s talking about his bipolar (air quotes) “issue.”
Erik: For me, energetically, and for some people bipolar disease is completely inherited. Some people don’t sign up for it. Let’s look at both options. There is a group of scientists who think that nothing is inherited, and you manifest and create it on your own. That’s what I think. If it’s something that you’re looking for or that you need, you tend to create it for yourself, but you can have it in the way that you need to use it to learn whatever the fuck you need to learn.
Me: Well, why does there seem to be a genetic basis for these?
Erik: Mom, Mom, Mom. Think about this. There are that other group of scientists that think it is inherited, that’s how the mother and father’s DNA worked when they go together to create this specific pattern. Their thinking it’s more of a mechanical process. But we all know that the development of cells and the DNA in the body is not 100% mechanical. There’s an energetic component and an environmental one. Scientists just haven’t owned up to that. Give us 3 to 4 years and we’ll start to talk about how the energetic component affects the DNA and how this trumps “inherited” (air quotes again) disease that you’re getting from your parents. So, why does it seem like it’s inherited? Think about it. If you’re coming in with a specific disease or issue—
Jamie: Sorry. He kind of jumped rails talking about two different ways that this happens so we’ll do each.
Erik: Number one—
Jamie (grinning): Don’t, Erik.
Erik: Let’s say I have bipolar disease. I definitely want somebody in my family or in life that has it as well so that they can understand it and I can have a support team. Or maybe I was supposed to come in and be the first person in the family with it. There are lessons there that are wrapped up in it. But there’s also—
Jamie (smiling to Erik): This would be number two.
Erik: You know how your pets will mimic or take on your energetic pattern that creates your physical problems, that shapes your DNA. Well, we can do this as well. So I come in. I’m not bipolar, but let’s say my grandma does, and I’m around her everyday and I love her a lot. She has it, and I’ve been round her for 6, 8, 10 years, and, all of a sudden, I have bipolar disease. I’m diagnosed with it, but I didn’t have it before. So they say, “Oh, it’s inherited. It’s coming up because of his hormones,” but really a very viable answer could be, “I love her so much that through my compassion for her throughout all those years, I’ve adopted that energetic pattern. Now, it’s physically showing up in me.
Me: Interesting. I can see that in my own life. I’ve seen that pattern happen. For example, when my father developed a blood clot in his leg, a couple of weeks later, I did. I’ve never had before. And [when I was a teenager], I watched this show called, Marcus Welby, M.D. and there was this little kid who developed this disease called ITP, idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura. I love saying that! It makes me seem so much smarter than I am. Then a couple of weeks later, I got that too. I can understand that. I see it in my own personal life.
Erik (suddenly standing up, shouts): It’s the power of the brain! What you believe in is what you manifest. If you’re attracted to it and you see it, and it entertains you, or you feel like you can use it for some reason, whether for good or bad, –but remember, there’s no good or bad–there just is —you will start to manifest it in your own life.
Me: Even if on a subconscious level, obviously.
Erik: Absolutely. We know for damn sure you’re not trying to get a clot in your leg.
Me: Yeah. Wee! Bring it on!
Erik: But through your compassion and wanting to understand your dad and be kind of separated from him for whatever reason—we don’t have to talk about that right now—but you reach out to him energetically to heal, to help so you mimic and you end up with that. Just because you hang out with someone who has a disease does not mean that you will get it. So, people, please don’t lock yourself in your homes.
Erik: Please don’t walk around with robber gloves on or a rubber hat over your head so you can protect your thoughts from influence.
Me: Sounds like you’re telling people not to become human condoms.
Me: Can you give me a few examples of the spiritual causes for bipolar disease? It seems like most diseases are our soul trying to use out bodies to wake up and become aware, change course, do something different.
Erik: Yes. First, it allows you to keep one foot in the Beyond and one foot in the body. Come on, isn’t anything “bi” something wonderful? Wink, wink. So for me, what I got out of it was I had this human experience, but I had this huge distance from being human. I could puppeteer myself through things, and I knew the right way to do it. I knew hos to listen, what to say, what a good reaction would be, but I was just far enough away from it that I could have a different perspective on it. That would make for a badass psychiatrist.
Jamie and I laugh.
Erik: But bipolar people have a hard time grounding themselves, and the purpose for that is so that they can have that other foot in this different dimension or realm, the afterlife, the Beyond, whatever the hell you want to call it. Being able to do that allows you to see the human life in a completely unattached way. It’s not like you don’t love it, Mom. You totally love your life. You’re in it to win it, but there’s this whole other supporting energy that says, “You don’t have to be as involved as much as you are.
Me: So is that one of the most common spiritual causes?
Erik: That was the main one for me.
Me: I guess that was important to you so you could learn to observe in a disconnected way. That way you could become a better teacher like you are now.
Me: Okay. Any other cause?
Erik: Well, some people choose to be bipolar as a sabotaging element so they can’t have intimate relationships. It keeps them removed from emotional values. So it’s not so much about being in the human life and being in the Beyond as much as it is staying distant from emotional connections.
Me: Is there a way we can approach and ameliorate it spiritually, and can it be cured?
Erik: I believe that it can be cured. It would be in a scientific way, a chemical way to boost the physical change in the human body so that the energetic patterns …
(He doesn’t finish his sentence.)
Erik: So then you can take the energetic approach to maintain it. There’s a marriage between chemical science and energy science. Neither is more “correct.” They can work together.
Jamie: He’s giving me image of digging a hole, but it’s like a grave. You have this big old shovel, and it can dig up the dirt. That’s the science part. It makes really physical alterations. And then the energetic side is when you come in with your own hands, and you’re scooping out dirt, moving it. It’s very involved where you’re manipulating the situation.
Erik: Sometimes you need both to get over the mountain and reach your end result. Energetically, spiritually, how do we address this? It’s about allowing the bipolar person to be in the moment and not seeing that if they’re swinging from one side or the other that that’s good or bad or that they need to stay present. That’s a lot like with Alzheimer’s and autism. Those people have a hard time staying present in the Now or being linear. You know, first you have to brush your teeth; then you do this; then you do that. A lot of times, we don’t want to behave that way, so why is the outside telling us we have to do that to be “normal.”
Erik (arms flying up in the air): What the fuck is normal and why do we have to behave that way? Why can’t we be uniquely ourselves with our disease, dis-ease, illness, whatever uniqueness we have, and be deemed normal for ourselves. That’s how we can approach this kind of illness to make it easier on the persons and [unintelligible] away from them.
Jamie: Energetic patterns. That’s kind of how he’s talking about behaviors or reactions.
Me: So what advice to you have for people with bipolar disease as far as, you know, how do they ameliorate it? Do they go through past life regression? Do they go to an energy healer? I mean, other than the medical, chemical approaches.
Erik: Yeah! They get a team! My first bit of advice, if you have bipolar disease, is, ‘I hope you like fucking puzzles.’
Erik flops in his chair.
Erik: Because that’s what we are. And not one particular focus, uh, like I think what we call the “normal” person, they can have one personality and one focus and it’ll work in every situation you have throughout your life. Bipolars are not that way. We have to adapt our personalities and change our outlooks in order to receive a “correct” answer in our situation. There are so many elements put into play by our external environment that just doesn’t fit, so we have to keep adapting.
Me: So there’s not just one approach. There’s a mixed approach that keeps changing.
Erik: Yes. I would say, have your doctor, have your therapist, have your energetic healer, and I would definitely do hypnosis work.