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  • October17th

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    We have a winner! Congrats to Nichole S. She guessed a Les Paul. Many of you guessed Fender and Gibson. His first guitar was a Fender Stratocaster and he loved it. He loved his Gibson, too, but he had a connection to Les Paul, hence his beautiful guitars. They’re all still hanging on his bedroom wall. 

    Time fro Celebrity Friday, Peeps. Actually I should call it “Sometimes Celebrity Friday” because I don’t always post these interviews on that day of the week.

     I’m posting this in two parts because he was a little longwinded. This first part is very poignant. It made me cry just reading it again. I hope you enjoy it.

    Me: What about Ray Charles? I bet he’d be fascinating to talk to.

    Jamie: Ray Charles? Why did I think he was still alive?

    Me: No, he passed after the release of the movie, “Ray.”

    (Pause)

    Me: I can check to make sure.

    Jamie: No, he’s here now, so he’s dead.

    Me: Well, hello, Mr. Charles.

    Jamie: Oh, you better call him Ray!

    Me: Hey, Ray!

    Jamie: Uh huh. That’s better! He whips off his glasses and says, “I don’t need these anymore!”

    Me: Awesome. How great!

    Jamie: He’s singing, “Georgia, sweet Georgia.”

    Jamie (to Ray): Ah, you like being here?

    Ray: Home is where the heart is.

    Jamie: Are you a Georgian? Well, welcome home!

    Jamie is in Georgia.

    Me: What was your spiritual mission this lifetime?

    Jamie (giggling): He puts his hands down on the table, and, I don’t know, he’s got on a t-shirt with a sports jacket over it, and his eyes are neat. They’re a light hazel color.

    Me: Interesting.

    Ray (putting his hands on the table): I was here to show that anything was possible.

    Me: That’s a biggie.

    Ray: I only taught a small corner of it. I hoped to teach people that they are not victims of their own life. (With more emphasis) They are not the victims of their own life!

    Jamie: He’s got a really animated voice.

    Me: Well, he was never a victim of his blindness. You showed everybody!

    Ray: What? I was blind?!

    Jamie, Erik and I laugh.

    Jamie: I didn’t think he’d be that silly!

    Jamie continues to laugh. She has a hard time composing herself.

    Ray: I didn’t know! I didn’t know!

    Me: You didn’t know what? That you were blind?

    Ray: Yeah. I had such a good life.

    Me: Aww. That’s good. Were you here to learn anything?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Ray): No. Anything, You can—(to me) He’s trying to, it’s so funny. When I get to talking, he interrupts me!

    Ray: I’m an onion.

    Me: Mm. Lot’s of layers to you.

    Jamie (to Ray, chuckling): Oh, you’re just being silly now! (To me) He calls himself a Georgia Vidalia onion. He thought that’d be funny to me, I guess because we’re in Georgia.

    Ray: I had many layers and many things to learn, and, wouldn’t you know it, the bulk of my life of who I was and what drove me was learned between the ages of one and eight.

    Me: Was that when you started to become blind?

    Ray: Yes ma’am.

    Jamie (whispering): I thought he was born blind.

    Me: I thought that too until I watched the movie.

    Ray: No. I saw the world, the light, the colors, and I know it was in my contract to lose my sight. I saw death. I saw sadness, and I never wanted to see it again.

    Me: Oh, gosh. His brother drowned, I think. His little brother.

    Jamie (to Ray): Did your little brother drown?

    Ray: Yes ma’am.

    Me: Are you together now?

    (Pause)

    Jamie (laughing): That’s a “yes,” and apparently he’s the worst and the best brother.

    Me: Aw, that’s cute.

    Jamie (choking up): Oh gosh. I got this overwhelming sense of emotion when he said that when he got into Heaven, he was the first person to reach out and save him.

    Me: Aww.

    Jamie: I’m so gonna choke up. Just bear with me.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (with a quiver in her voice): He can push emotion out. It’s incredible. He said when his little brother reached out to pull him from life, it was like saving him.

    Jamie (crying softly): I don’t know why I can’t—I can’t sit in this. I gotta walk away. Let me step back so I can listen.

    Me: Poor Jamie.

    Jamie: No, it’s such a neat feeling. All right. I’m on the other side of the room.

    Ray says something to her.

    Jamie (to Ray): No, it’s not punishment! I’m learning how to deal with feeling things!

    She laughs.

    Jamie: Ah, he’s cutting up. He says his little brother drowned, and he didn’t save him. He didn’t reach out and grab him, but he saw it happen. So when his little brother reached out and pulled him out of this life, it was like pulling him out of the bathtub. It was saving Ray from the life that he’d been in.

    Ray: When the two of us met, it was the one true forgiveness I was waiting for my whole life. I didn’t realize how valuable it was to me. So my life so far in Heaven has been just the cream of the crop.

    Me: Aww. How wonderful. I know that it hit you very hard, and probably that drowning that took your brother had a lot to do with shaping the rest of your life.

    Ray: It did, and I know that’s why God blessed me with losing my eyes. I couldn’t bear to see anything like that again, and I often wondered, in my life, if losing my eyesight at the age that I did was a way of sealing in only the handful of memories that I could carry on. That really kept me in a framework that I know I wouldn’t have held onto if I had been able to see.

    Me: Interesting. Were you here to learn anything?

    Ray: I’m comin’ back! I’m not done with that!

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Jamie: Erik’s laughing.

    Erik: Jamie, you’re going to have to get used to this.

    Me: Easier said than done.

    Jamie: Well, it’s new, so…

    I repeat the question about whether he was here to learn something, and Jamie mutters it to Ray.

    Ray: Yes ma’am, yes ma’am. I—

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Ray): Is that a song? (To me, laughing) He’s singing something to me.

    Ray: I was here to learn how to forgive. First, it was learning how to forgive myself. The only way I knew how to do it was through music. I couldn’t speak straight. I couldn’t talk to someone straight. It had to come through music. Then, everyone could understand how the words in my head sounded because they come with tone and harmony and rhythm. I had more emotion than I knew what to do with.

    Me: Mm. And song has so many more layers of expression than words.

    Jamie: Ah, he likes that bit about the layers.   Ray): So you’re a Vidalia onion!

    Me: Anything else about what you were here to learn, or should we go on?

    Ray: Let’s move right along.

    How about a sweet tune from the man!

  • September18th

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    I really love this interview because it challenges us to revisit and perhaps change our deep-rooted perspectives. For many of us, the concept that there is no good or bad, no right or wrong is a touch one, but, as Erik says, there are just lessons.

    I hope you guys enjoyed the trance channeling event last night. I was so busy working on the book to meet a deadline that I couldn’t attend like I usually do. Did Erik behave himself?

    Me: Erik, can you go get Adolf Hitler in here?

    Jamie (nervously): Oh my god!

    I giggle.

    Erik: We’re really doing this?

    Jamie: Yeah.

    Me: Well, is it okay with you, Jamie?

    Jamie: Mm hm.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Done.

    Me: All right!

    Jamie: No, he just left.

    Me: Oh, he left.

    Jamie: He was arguing with me. He goes, “I’m not going to go get him! You don’t treat him like an asshole. You treat him like a person. Don’t have any preconceptions.” And I was like, ‘Okay, fine, fine. I’m letting it go.’

    Me: I’ve got some benign questions. I don’t have anything mean. (although he deserves to be raked over the coals for what he did.)

    (Pause)

    Jamie: I bet he doesn’t get called in for a lot of things for a casual discussion. He probably gets a lot of hate mail.

    Me: Oh, poor guy.

    I can’t believe I just said that, but…

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Yes, I’m ready!

    Me: Oh?

    Jamie: He just popped back in and said, “Are you ready?”

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik, slightly irritated): Yeah, stop!

    Me: It’s like, “Heeeeere’s Adolf!” instead of “Heeeeere’s Johnny!” and he comes out from the curtain.

    Jamie: Oh my god.

    (Pause)

    Me: So, he’s there?

    Jamie: Yeah, he’s here.

    Me: Hello, Mr. Hitler. How are you doing?

    Hitler: Fine, thank you.

    Erik (to Hitler): Take a seat.

    Me: What does he look like, and what’s his mood?

    Jamie: He’s got very stiff posture. There’s nothing fluid about him. (In a hushed tone) Um, his eyes are really dark. His eyebrows are kind of sinking low like his eye sockets don’t have a lot of space. I don’t know if that makes sense.

    Me (teasing): No, but go on.

    Jamie: Droopy. Droopy eyebrows. You know, that skin above?

    Me: Mm hm.

    Jamie: He’s just looking out. I don’t think I’ve seen him blink yet!

    Me: Wow. What is he wearing, a military uniform?

    Jamie: No, it’s a dark, probably black suit, and he has a tie on underneath it with a kind of high collar.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: But the jacket is buttoned up, and there are several buttons to it. It’s not like a casual suit like we see today. He’s shorter than I thought he would be.

    Me: Does he seem comfortable and relaxed now?

    Jamie: No, he’s sitting straight up in the chair, very—

    Me: Anxious? Nervous?

    Jamie: Are you? No. He told me “no”.

    Me: Oh, good. All right. Let’s start with the questions, then. Tell us about your childhood. Did it have anything to do with the atrocities you committed here on the earthly plane? I’m sorry’ I can’t think of another word.

    Hitler: Every man’s life’s actions are based on how he was created.

    Erik: So, is that a yes?

    Jamie laughs.

    Jamie: And you know what’s interesting? Erik is sitting on my side of the room. He’s next to me.  Commonly, he stands next to the person we’re interviewing or sits next to them, but no, he’s on the same side of the room as I am. I almost feel like we’re interrogating him.

    Me: Why is that, Erik?

    Erik: I didn’t realize I did it.

    Me: Okay. So, were there incidents in your childhood that caused you to do what you did?

    Hitler: I never had much consistency in my family. There was not a lot of beauty. There was much disgrace within my family.

    Me: What do you mean, skeletons in the closet?

    Jamie and Erik giggle,

    Jamie: Oh, Erik and I giggle at that, but he did NOT giggle.

    Hitler: Yes. It is true that many lives in the family. I was displaced within my family.

    Jamie: He’s saying he wasn’t raised by two traditional parents. The mother died, or the mother left?

    Me: I don’t know.

    Jamie: He’s showing me, as a child, he stopped having his mother. I can’t tell if she died or he moved. He’s not being very clear about it.

    Hitler: I never thought I belonged to anyone. I was untethered, and I didn’t feel like I had any family or religion to lean on, not a country to feel a part of. I helped create that for myself.

    Me: Ah!

    Me: Was that the only reason you did what you did (his childhood hardships), or was there some sort of spiritual mission or contract involved?

    (Very long pause)

    Jamie: He says it was a spiritual contract.

    Me: Can you elaborate on that? How was it supposed to help? What was your contract about?

    Hitler: It is unfortunate—

    (Pause)

    Jamie (whispering): He’s got these dramatic pauses.

    Hitler: –that the world requires conflict for a massive amount of joy.

    Me: What?

    Jamie: Mm hm. You heard it.

    Me: I don’t understand it, though. They need conflict in order to have massive amounts of joy?

    Hitler: This is the role I played. This is not the being I truly am.

    Jamie: He’s talking about unzipping out of the identity that we perceive him as so he may discuss this life as Hitler as a third party.

    Me: Okay. We can do that. Anything that makes you more comfortable. Okay, so you’re life as Adolf Hitler, which you are not. Um, you’re not that personality anymore. I understand that. What was the effect of that spiritual mission?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: This is kind of weird to look at. I’m glad I’m not alone in the room. Erik keeps cutting his eyes at me like, “What?” Now there are two images of Hitler in the room. There’s the gentleman in the dark suit, sitting down. When he was talking about unzipping, he kind of stepped out of himself. The gentleman that’s standing next to him I know is Hitler, though I don’t know. He looks lighter. He’s has soft features. The way he’s standing is soft. His posture’s not stiff. He’s not as groomed to a T, so he looks more causal. He is wearing a suit, but the suit is open. He’s pointing to the Hitler sitting down, and he’s saying, “This is the man that you want to discuss. This is the role I played on Earth. This is what you wish to discuss. It’s hard to have a conversation through him, because all of the confusion, the hatred, the thoughts from all over the world that’s placed on his name.” I am not sad about this. The people have a right to be angry. They have a right to feel, though I do not regret the role and the contract I played for the world. This war that I created—

    Jamie: It’s weird how he says I, not we. He totally takes it on himself. He’s not talking about countries.

    (Pause)

    Jamie: I asked him to back up. He’s being really kind to me.

    Me: Good.

    Jamie: The one standing. The one sitting is just—I swear to god, I don’t think that one has blinked. He’s still sitting very straight up.

    Hitler: This war that I created has given our history a focus and example of what to avoid and what to not create. I don’t have regrets because of how the world was shaped after it. It made changes that every culture needed to create for itself that didn’t have the fight or struggle that would make it so. I gave them the fight and the struggle. I knew what I needed to do before I was born and why I came. I will take that responsibility. I will never veer from it.

    Me: All right, so what was the effect. Was what you did mean to create more peace in the world?

    Jamie is talking over me. I can’t make out what she’s translating.

    Jamie: He just totally interrupted you!

    Hitler: It gave respect to beliefs, to religions. It gave cultures a way to bond. It gave society a structure to grow, and it gave people rights. It helped hand feed humanity to get to where it is today.

    Me: Was that what you were here to teach?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Me: Okay. What about to learn? Were you here to learn anything?

    Hitler: I was there to learn a lot of pain.

    Me: And why would that be necessary?

    Hitler: Because of who I am on this side, I’ve never had pain. It takes a strong soul to come through, to create such chaos. It’s a misconception to believe that only evil can create evil on Earth.

    Jamie gasps.

    Me: Okay. So, you said you didn’t have any regrets about creating the war. Do you have any other regrets?

    Hitler: I know very much—

    Jamie: Okay, that’s translated a little bit weird.

    Hitler: I know very much that people would want me to say how I regret the death and the suffering of so many people’s lives.

    Me: Do you think you overstepped the boundaries?

    Jamie: Oh my god. I hear “no”.

    Hitler: This is what I was supposed to come in to do.

    Me: Did you receive any help from your guides to create such a mass effect on the world?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Me: And what was your secret? How did you create this massive war? How were you able to convince the masses to make this all happen?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Holy shit! (Turning her head to Erik) Am I going to say that?

    Me: Ah oh.

    Jamie: Oh my god. You—I don’t wanna be in that. Can I type it out for you?

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Sure, but why? Go ahead and say it! C’mon!

    Jamie: Elisa. (Pause) I would never, uh, Erik.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Sorry. I didn’t mean to make such quietness!

    Jamie giggles nervously. She’s clearly uncomfortable with whatever Hitler said.

    Jamie: He said, “How did Jesus get so many followers? What did he do?”

    Good god. That comparison seems like a bit of a stretch. I’m afraid to go on, but I do.

    Me: And, what did he do?

    Hitler: It is a charisma. It is an attraction to the person and the strength of that person’s beliefs. It’s the ideology of feeling safe and guided and taught. I provided a role that I could take care of this country, of these people, that through this war I would give them the greatness that they seek, and I found people who would help me. I had thousands doing my bidding and by choice, not by force. This is what so many people forget.

    Me: Ah! Did you have any disease—mental or physical—that made you, um, I mean, that created some of your actions?

    I laugh at my own stuttering.

    Hitler: Physical?

    Me: Yeah.

    Jamie laughs.

    Jamie: Egocentric n-na…. I was going to say what he was saying, but—

    Me: I was going to say did something make you crazy, but that’s not exactly what I mean. It’s disrespectful, but that’s, you know—

    Hitler: I believe any man who has accepted a role of power lets it go to his head, and if we want to consider that mental illness, then so be it.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: But no, if we ask him technically, no.

    Me: Okay. Now, when you crossed over, what was your life review like? Did you have any epiphanies or realizations?

    (Very long pause)

    Jamie: He was telling me he remembers being afraid of death.

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: I’m not ashamed to say this out loud.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Did he, really? (To me) Erik was telling me he shot himself.

    Me: Yep.

    Jamie: I thought he got shot.

    Me: No, he shot himself. Well, I don’t know. I’m pretty sure.

    Erik (looking at Jamie): Nope.

    Erik (pointing at Hitler, then pointing at himself): We’re in a club.

    Jamie giggles.

    Me (slightly upset): Oh, no. Oh, Erik. That’s not a good club to be in.

    Erik: For different reasons.

    Hitler: I didn’t want to be imprisoned. I didn’t want to suffer. I was terrified of that. It kept me awake at night.

    Me: Obviously while he was alive (dur).

    Jamie: Yes.

    Me (laughing at my stupid remark): Yes, of course.

    Hitler: So, after I died, I just remembered darkness for what I think was a long time—probably many Earth years. I believed it was necessary for me to help forgive myself and heal myself for the contract I agreed to.

    Me: But eventually, you had your life review, right?

    Hitler: No.

    Me: You did not have a life review?!

    (Pause)

    Jamie: He did not!

    Me: Wow. Interesting. When you woke up, and you reflected on your contract, did you have any epiphanies or realizations?

    Hitler: Those years in darkness—that’s what helped me identify my contract and heal myself.

    Me: Okay. I gotcha.

    Hitler: I played this role for the greater cause of humanity. I did not choose this role or develop this role for self-centering needs.

    Me: Can you share a life that most influenced your life as Adolf Hitler?

    (Pause)

    Jamie (shocked): No!

    Me: Because you refuse to, or.,,

    Jamie: Uh, I don’t think there’s a life! Can I share what I think it is?

    Me: Go ahead.

    Jamie: Like just from the way he’s talking and what he’s showing me?

    Me: Mm hm.

    Jamie: I don’t feel like Hitler’s spirit is kind of a mix of things like the average human. We reincarnate; we grow; we shift. It’s more of like—I cannot believe I’m going to say this—more of like an angelic energy.

    Oh no. This is not going to get good reactions. I might have to be under the Witness Protection Program.

    Me (in disbelief): Wow.

    Jamie: I know, I—

    Me: Like an archangel?

    How could I be even thinking this of a man who’s committed such atrocities?

    Jamie: No, and I don’t believe he’s an angel, either, but when I hear angels talk to me about being on Earth, they don’t take place in this reincarnation back-to-back where this grow thing happens over so many lives. They have really specific reasons to be on Earth, and so to have—cuz when you talk about a past life, you really couldn’t, uh, he couldn’t show me anything.

    Me: Hm.

    Jamie: I don’t feel like this is his one and only life on Earth, but I feel like it’s such a unique contract seed, you know, this gathering of purpose, that there really wasn’t an inflection—it really wasn’t based on any kind of character or purpose or development.

    Me: I see. I understand. What would the world have been like if you had not done the things that you did?

    Hitler: Still much separation between races and cultures.

    Me: Okay. Anything else?

    Jamie (chuckling): My god. He just smiled!

    Hitler: I like to think I had influence on the industrial era.

    Jamie: And he smiled. You can tell it’s something he took pride in.

    Me: Well, he did.

    Jamie: Design and factories and metals. He’s proud of that, but you know when you talk about the war and everything, there was no smiling and no pride behind it. It was designed. It was a contract.

    Me: It was something he had to do but wasn’t proud of? Weren’t you ashamed of it?

    Hitler: I cannot be. I did what I was meant to do.

    Me: I see. Do you have any messages for humanity, at all? Any advice or messages?

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: We are in a world today, that if you feel strongly about your beliefs, you must stand up as an individual and make it heard, but it is very important to know what needs to be heard—

    (Pause as Jamie listens to Hitler)

    Jamie (to Hitler): Yeah, your translation is backwards again here.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Sorry. We’re talking about the way he just translated that. Cuz he said what needs to be heard must be based on the whole. He’s giving a lot of imagery with it. So, basically, if you believe in something, don’t follow somebody else’s ideas. Stand up for your own ideas. But the only way you know if those ideas are valuable is if they’re helping the whole, the entirety: the family unit that you’re in, the company that you’re in, the state, the governments, the nation, the world—it’s gotta be a united front, not a single front.

    Me: Okay. How would you envision the perfect world to be?

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: Where there is no hatred.

    Me: Mm. Will we ever have it?

    Hitler: I see that we are getting close, and I know that the world can sustain it.

    Me: Okay.

    Erik (to Hitler): So, will we ever have it?

    Hitler: For this, I don’t know.

    Me: Okay. Now, Erik, what question do you have?

    Erik: I wanna ask one thing:  When you came out of that darkness, did you just look at yourself and say, “That was some fucked up shit!”?

    Jamie: Believe it or not, that got the second smile out of him.

    (Long pause)

    Me: And?

    Jamie: He’s pausing.

    Me: Oh, okay.

    Jamie (laughing): Sorry. The quietness again!

    Hitler: I know where you are coming from. I understand where you are coming from, but that life to me was no surprise. I was designed for it.

    Me: Okay. Jamie, do you have any questions?

    Jamie (emphatically): Huh uh!

    Me: Thanks so much. We’ve learned a lot from you. I hope that helps you, too.

    Hitler: Thank you. Have a good day. Goodbye.

    Jamie: The one sitting down stands up, straightens his pants, walks straight out. Doesn’t say goodbye to me, acknowledge me, nothing.

    Me: Hm.

    Jamie: And the other Adolf that’s standing more casually waves. The one standing had kind of a tan suit on. This was weird. It’s almost like the world has created so much thought and descriptions of who Adolf should be, even in spirit, that he can’t come out of that design, that container from what the mass of thoughts and emotions have put on him. So, it’s almost like he divided himself so that one image can live so that people can put their hatred in one place or that healing or whatever they’re doing in that one location, and he can still be himself and house that (other Adolf), cuz he’s definitely, like I said, he’s not backing away from any of it.

    Me: Wow! It’s interesting. Okay. That was a really good interview. We’ll see what kind of response that gets from the blog!

    Jamie: Holy shit. Can you—I almost just about fell out of my chair when you asked him—I can’t even remember the question…

    Me: Yeah, about him being like Jesus or something? How did he—

    Jamie (laughing): I looked at Erik and said, ‘Holy shit, I’m not saying it.’ and he said, “Fucking say it. C’mon!” He said I was being a p-u-s-s-y.

    We both giggle.

    Jamie: And that’s when I asked, ‘Can I write it down?’

    Me: Nah, you can say it, and it’s going to go on the blog, so…

    Jamie: Holy fuck.

    Erik’s been a bad influence on Jamie, language-wise. I rarely hear her curse.

    Me: No editing here.

    Jamie lets in a loud gasp.

     

  • September12th

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    When I was a kid, I loved watching the TV show, “I Love Lucy.” She was so funny and the chemistry between her and Ethel and her and Desi was very special. One of the most memorable segments was when Ethel and she worked at an assembly plant of a candy factory. 

    Me: Erik, can you see if you can get Lucille Ball? She was so funny! From what I here she was a brilliant businesswoman too.

    Erik: We’ll find out.

    Jamie: He’s gone. I think he’s going to get her.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: Lucille, uh, Lucy is here.

    Me: Okay. Hello Lucille. How are you?

    Lucy: Wonderful, thank you.

    Me: What does she look like? What age?

    Jamie: Older than her I Love Lucy Show, but her hair is more blonde brown than strawberry.

    Me: Oh, really?

    Jamie: Yeah, I guess I imagined it to be bright red.

    Me: Lucy is that your natural color?

    Lucy: Auburn, yes it is.

    Me: Okay. Did Erik tell you, on the way back, what this was all about?

    Lucy: No, I’m coming in cold. I think it’s better to do interviews that way.

    Me: Oh, okay! Well, we’re trying to interview celebrities like you for spiritual insight—in a non-voyeuristic way. We just want your spiritual perspective of life and the world so we can learn. Is that okay with you?

    Jamie: She’s smiling brightly. She does have red, red lipstick on.

    Me: All right. The first question is what was your spiritual mission here on the earthly plane?

    Jamie: Her chin is a little up. She’s kind of looking out. She’s joking that she didn’t know that she had a mission. She doesn’t quite know how to respond to it. As a child she didn’t really feel that she had a mission to complete.

    Lucy: When I was around 13-14, I knew that I was greater than the family I was in. That was the first time I felt passion and drive. I had to grow up and beyond the family to give to it. I feel I was successful at that, but I wish I had been wiser at a young age to recognize what my family was trying to do with what was helpful and healthy. But you know how it goes with being a teenager. You know everything and your parents don’t.

    Me: Of course. I’m dealing with those teenagers as we speak.

    Jamie laughs.

    Lucy: If I had to label a mission, it was to prove myself—to prove myself not just to my family but to my loved ones, the world—that was a very, very common thread. I think that’s what mostly powered my life.

    Me: Okay. Well, mission accomplished as far as I’m concerned.

    Lucy: Thank you.

    Jamie: She was talking about all the different careers she went for, and she was saying not that she was a dinosaur but back then life was very different and there were not very many roles for a woman to take.

    Lucy: That’s why I felt it was extremely important throughout my career that I stayed in control. That’s what turned into my business, my production company.

    Me: It was very unusual; it still is, for a celebrity to hold onto their money. So many of them crash and burn and end up broke, but you did quite well and held onto your wealth so kudos to you.

    Lucy: Thank you. You know I held onto my wealth, but I looked in retrospect and saw that my focus was so strongly on that, what else could my focus have been on?

    Jamie: I’m interrupting. The way she’s able to talk, she analyzes really well. She’s a very critical thinker, very critical because she was talking about being so focused on the company and business that she kind of let her marriage go.

    Me: Aw, okay. Well, I’m sure it takes two to tango.

    Lucy: Thank you for that. Yes it does.

    Me: Were you here to learn anything?

    (Long Pause)

    Jamie: She’s quiet. Hold on. And she looks up when she’s thinking.

    Lucy: I would have answered discipline, but I really feel I learned it as I moved away from it.

    Me: What do you mean by “moved away from it”? Did you become undisciplined, or did you become disciplined and move on to something else?

    Lucy: I went on to something else.

    Me: Okay.

    (Pause)

    Jamie: She doesn’t mind pauses, you know, like totally quiet, not feeling the pressure.

    Lucy: I loved to go back and overlook my choices and what I’ve done. It’s very enlightening. (to me) You will enjoy doing the same thing.

    Me: Oh yes.

    Jamie: Oh, I forgot the question. Sorry. What were we talking about?

    Me: What were you here to learn?

    Lucy: I’m going to stick with discipline.

    Me: Okay. Were you here to teach anything?

    Lucy: That women are not just part of a man’s rib. We are independent, on our own.

    Me: You sure taught that well.

    Jamie: Oh, yeah. She’s really proud of that one!

    Me: That’s a huge deal especially for that day. I used to watch her shows all the time.

    Lucy: I had a really great time making them. Thank you.

    Me: Do you think you accomplished all that you were here to do?

    (Long pause)

    Lucy: Yes.

    Me: Did you have to think about that one?

    Lucy: Yes, well I always think that I can do more. I have to turn that off and really look at ‘what did I do?’

    Me: Did you come in with that trait of wanting to be disciplined and wanting to have this drive or was there something about your upbringing that stoked that fire in your belly, that desire to achieve, so to speak?

    Lucy: I think I was born with it, but my mother definitely stoked it.

    Me: In what way?

    Lucy: In a controlling way that you, as a mother, probably should not do to your child.

    Me: Okay. When you crossed over, did you gain any new insights?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (laughing): She’s joking and counting them out on her fingers.

    Lucy: I gained quite a few insights. One is that I could stop pushing myself. That was very much a human attribute. I thought it was a spiritual attribute when I was on Earth, so that was an awakening!

    Me: Mm. It must have been a relief!

    Lucy: In many ways.

    Jamie (giggling): She gives me an image of lemonade in a pool. Wait. Lying in a pool floating in a pool with lemonade. A relief. That’s a relief for her.

    Me: Any other insights?

    Jamie: It’s weird. It can go so quiet with her.

    Me: I would not expect that!

    Jamie: No, I would have thought she’d be just nonstop energy.

    Me: I guess she got all of her talking out of her system! Okay. What was the life that most influenced your one as Lucille Ball?

    Jamie: She’s showing me an image of her as a Caucasian female child. She looks like a doll. She’s probably about 4 years old, but her hair is really thick and curly and it’s long; it’s in ringlets, and that’s what makes her looks like a doll. Aw, she’s got cowboy boots on. She’s got on a skirt, but underneath—aw, she just wanted to be a boy. She wanted to be a cowboy.

    Lucy: My mom had made me some pants, and I loved the idea of looking like a boy but I had this hair. I hated my hair, but my mother would not cut it. My mother wanted me to be a lady. You know, she knew I would grow up to be very pretty, but I wanted to have the freedom that the men had. I wanted to go out and look for things to do. I would always sit out and dream about getting on my horse and going out and exploring the land, but as women we didn’t do that, and sometimes I would put my dress on and put my pants on underneath like oooo!

    Me: Oh boy! Taking a big risk for a little girl!

    Lucy: I needed to play out that power. I needed to play out that position of being a woman but being as strong as a man.

    Me: Exactly.

    Lucy: And this is where I got it.

    Me: That makes perfect sense.

    Jamie: It’s sad. She played out the life. I think she was about 8 or 9, and she was messing around with her daddy’s guns—

    Me: Oh, no!

    Jamie: –and accidentally shot herself.

    Me: That’s too bad.

    Of course this is the last thing I want to hear given the death of my son.

    Me: Are you reincarnated here on the earthly plane, Ms. Ball?

    Lucy: No.

    Me: Okay. Do you have any messages for us, for humanity? Any advice?

    Lucy: Yes. We are all equals, and if I may be so bold to have a second one?

    Me: Oh yes. Go right ahead!

    Lucy: You are the only person who makes yourself.

    Me: That’s right. Very powerful. Your life demonstrated that, too. Erik, any questions from you?

    Jamie (giggling): No, but he said something really stupid. He said, “Draw.”

    Me: Erik! What an inappropriate reference to her past life, especially given your past.

    Jamie: Yeah, but she pretends to get out pen and paper.

    Everyone laughs.

    Me: Well, thanks so much for coming to visit us Lucy.

    Lucy: You’re very welcome.

    She waves and walks away.

    Jamie: Wow, what a deep thinker. Unexpected!

    Me: Well, being such a successful businesswoman didn’t jive with the roles she played so you never know! She may be full of surprises.

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  • August29th

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    I fell in love with John Wayne’s movies ever since watching True Grit and The Green Berets. Both made me cry, and I like movies that have that effect on me. I sob every time I watch Bambi’s mother die. Recently I was wondering why. All of my life I’ve felt emotionally numb. In other words, it’s hard for me to feel anything deeply. Then I realized that because of my terrible childhood, I couldn’t express emotions without some sort of repercussion. That fear made me hide myself from feeling anything. Then, I realized that happiness throughout my life has always been short lived so I came to the subconscious conclusion that it was safest not to feel at all. But movies that make me cry, like the ones starring John Wayne’s, breaks through that numbness a little bit. They’re so cathartic. 

    Me: Erik, do you think you can round up John Wayne for us? He’s one of Aunt Laura and Uncle Jim’s favorite movie stars.

    Erik: See ya.

    Jamie and I chit chat until Erik returns.

    Jamie: John’s here with Erik.

    Me: Oh. You know, we should install a red carpet in your office, Jamie. Maybe a couple of nice velvet ropes, some bodyguards.

    John Wayne laughs.

    John (teasing): I could see how I’d need bodyguards here.

    Me: Oh, right!

    John (to Jamie): You look really dangerous.

    Jamie and I laugh hard.

    John (to Jamie): Are you packing a gun?

    Jamie (standing up and showing him): No, just my yoga pants.

    Me: John, I don’t think you have to worry about little Jamie. Hello, Mr. Wayne!

    Jamie: Oh my god, he’s funny! He just jumps right in like he’s been a part of this forever.

    Me: Mr. Wayne, my sister and brother-in-law adore you. I think they have every one of your movies.

    John: Thank you so much. I really had a wonderful career.

    Me: Yes, you did. And you were a good-looking man! You probably still are!

    Jamie: He is. I’m sorry, but he really is.

    Me: What does he look like—what age and such? Does he look like the younger John Wayne or the older one?

    Jamie: No, he’s really not coming across as really, really young. He’s probably—I would say late 40s. Younger than he was when he passed away, I guess.

    John: I was an old fart when I died.

    Jamie giggles.

    Me: Well, we’re hopefully all going to be old farts when we die, John. That’s my wish, anyway. So, my first question for the interview is this: What was your spiritual mission while you were here on the Earth?

    John: To pretend to be everything I wasn’t.

    Me: Well, that goes with the territory of being an actor, I guess!

    Jamie (laughing): He’s playfully teasing.

    John: Yes, as an actor, I got every opportunity. As a spiritual mission, it was mostly for myself—looking for peace and contentment.

    Me: And did you find that?

    John: I did, and I found it more than once.

    Jamie: He’s holding his hands in front of him like something is slipping through his hands.

    John: I kept letting go of it.

    Me: Okay. Can you elaborate?

    Erik: Yeah, what are you linking that to?

    John: To my wives.

    Jamie: Wives, plural.

    Me: Okay.

    Erik: You make it sound like a harem!

    Jamie: Oh, Erik!

    John: No, but I was married more than once. More than twice. I saw more solace with my wives than I did within myself. I just couldn’t sustain it. That, I know, is part of my lesson, and I was not able to learn that—how to sustain it.

    Me: So, that was what you were here to learn—to sustain inner peace and solace?

    John: Yes.

    Me: Okay. Were you here to teach anything?

    (Long pause)

    John: Well, I would like to think I was here to teach having a good time, to enjoy whatever and wherever you are. I didn’t have a platform for it, and I definitely did many inappropriate things in my life.

    Erik: Name one.

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Okay, yeah!

    Jamie: He’s talking about skipping school and going to go surf.

    Me: To surf?

    Jamie: Yeah, like in the ocean. But then there were repercussions to it. Either something happened that he didn’t return on time, or—

    Me: Oh, yeah.

    John: It was just inappropriate because it wasn’t honest, and it wasn’t loyal. It wasn’t until my mid 30’s that I understood what loyalty was.

    Me: Okay. Now, do you think you accomplished all that you came here to do, other than what you were here to learn?

    John: I did everything I could, but again, the one thing I couldn’t accomplish was holding onto or sustaining that inner love, inner peace.

    Me: Okay. Can you describe another life that most influenced your one as John Wayne?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Um, he’s talking about being a black male. He was a slave in the United States.

    John: I was on the boat as a man, not a child. I was pulled from my country and put on a boat. I was told what to do, directed, and it was most humbling to be a grown man and recognize that I couldn’t stand on my own two feet without somebody else telling you how to stand.

    Me: How terrible.

    John: I decided then that if I were ever to have the chance to come back into a different life, into a different world, I would not allow others to be mistreated, that I would not let myself succumb to what other people told me to do. I’m not against authority. There’s a certain strength in authority when it takes care of the people they’re directing. It’s when they no longer choose to take care of people through their directing that it goes wrong. That’s why I was wildly, wildly interested in war, like the technical plans of war. It was why I felt like I fit so well into the cowboy era. I had a beautiful chance to be represented as the cowboy that I never was in a time when there were no real cowboys. It was all for the justice of those who were taken advantage of.

    Me: Mm hm. Fascinating. Now, are you incarnated on the Earth now in terms of linear time here?

    John: No.

    Me: Well, I don’t blame you! Do you have any messages for us, for humanity? Any advice?

    John: Yes. What you don’t know will hurt you.

    Me: Ah! That one rings true.

    John: I encourage every age to get up and learn what’s going on.

    Me: Yeah. People don’t do that anymore, you know?

    John: Yes, and we are stepping into a dangerous time where ignorance can create bliss despite the suffering. And if we don’t rally around and give out honest information, this country will be torn apart.

    Me: What dangers lurk?

    Jamie (clearly touched): He’s so serious now. So different than how he first came in.

    John: The dangers that we’re in now consist of a broken system—a broken government system.

    Me: Yes. I already see it happening.

    John: And an IRS that’s not only seizing (or thieving?) but lying, and masses of people who are obeying instead of saying no.

    Me: Exactly. Yep.

    John: And it’s going to come to an end soon.

    Me: Well, maybe that’s what needs to happen—to be destroyed and built back up properly. So, Erik, you always loved dressing up like a cowboy and horses. We still have your cowboy hat and rope hanging up on the wall in your room. Do you have any questions for Mr. Wayne?

    Erik: Were you really that good of a shot?

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Good one, Erik.

    John: Yessir, yes I was, and that came with practice.

    Me: Yeah. (Solemn pause) I almost said you were a pretty good shot yourself, Erik, but that didn’t seem very appropriate. Actually, you were very good with target practice. A very, very good shot.

    (Pause)

    Me: Well, thank you so much, sir.

    John: You’re welcome. Take care. Keep fighting.

    Jamie (laughing): He just did one of those, um, he went to walk past me, and he did one of those, uh, I don’t know-that surprise where you step back and show your hands like “Whoa, is she about to get me?”

    Me: How funny!

    Jamie (still laughing): Oh my god, no!

    Me: Aw, that’s so cute! He’s funnier than I thought he would be!

    Jamie: Ditto! I’ve always seen him in the cowboy mode.

    Me: Yeah, the serious cowboy movies.

    Reflecting on Erik’s love of all things cowboy reminded me of something. Until the age of 3 or 4, he pretty much walked around naked. One evening we were sitting outside with some relatives from Norway who came for a visit, and Erik was roaming around us with not a stitch of clothing on. Rune told him to go back in an get dressed (which was weird because he was only two or two and a half at the time). He went back inside and returned with only his little red cowboy boots on. I guess that’s as dressed as he wanted to get. 

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  • August13th

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    This next celebrity is one of my favorite singers even though she was well before my time. (Finally, someone who is.) My son, Lukas, has recently stumbled upon the wonderful Ella Fitzgerald, and loves her voice. It’s so velvety smooth. Because of that, my interest has been rekindled. I remember, when I was no more than 12 or 13, my mother took us to see Ella in a live performance. Looking back, I had no idea how momentous that would be.  Let’s see what Etta  has to share. 

    Me: What about Etta James? Can we see if we can get her? She just passed away. She’s the one who sang that beautiful song, “At Last.” That’s one of my favorites. She was only 78, 79. Pretty young.

    Erik: Okay.

    (Pause as Erik disappears to get Etta.)

    Jamie: Here she is.

    Me: Hi Etta.

    Jamie (laughing): I thought, um, I didn’t even get the thought out of my head and she touches my arm and says, “It’s okay; I get that a lot. I thought she was African American. Her hair is so pretty. It looks like—

    Me: Really?

    Jamie: She’s got really smooth hair.

    Me: Are you mulatto, Etta?

    Etta: It’s in my family, yes.

    Me: If I remember correctly, you had very light skin.

    Jamie: It was the hair that threw me off, and she has candy red lipstick on.

    Me: Well, Etta, I’ve been singing that song ever since you died. We miss you.

    Etta (Placing her hand on her heart): Thank you so much.

    Me: So we’re going to ask you some questions. First of all, Etta, I’d like to know what your spiritual mission here.

    Jamie: She’s focusing more on the spiritual.

    Etta: I’m a big believer in God.

    Jamie: The way she says God makes it sound delicious.

    Etta: I started in the church. I fell in love with music there. My association with God vibrated with music. I didn’t feel chained.

    Jamie: She shows me her wrists.

    Etta: I didn’t feel chained to my beliefs, and my spiritual mission, I know it wasn’t about spreading God’s word. It was helping people know that God’s words were theirs.

    Jamie: Her posture is amazing, by the way.

    Me: Can you tell me more about that? Can you give me some more details?

    Jamie: She’s chatty, and I already lost it. I told her to back it on up. Erik’s just giggling. It’s funny, every now and then she’ll lean into Erik. You know how you do with a friend like when you’re laughing you kind of lean into them. You kind of touch shoulders. So, they did that just then.

    Etta: Nobody really connects in a conversation where it is one-sided, and they are preaching to you how it should be. But everybody seems to connect once they’ve experienced it. So, I knew it was my mission through music to let people experience what God and life is giving us rather than preach it.

    Me: So that was something you came here to teach?

    Etta: Yes.

    Jamie: Plus she calls it her spiritual mission.

    Me: Were you here to learn anything?

    Jamie (chuckling): Her mouth kind of drops open and she smiles big.

    Etta: I was here to learn it all!

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Erik (laughing) Well, if you could just narrow that down a little bit. What was your favorite thing to learn? What was your most surprising lesson?

    Jamie: That’s a great question, Erik!

    Me: Very good! That’s my baby!

    Jamie: She leans back in her posture.

    Etta: My most surprising lesson was to not be in control. I don’t know if I learned how to surrender. I never knew that it was a difficult thing for me until my life was threatened with it.

    Me: What do you mean?

    Jamie: Yeah, Erik was on top of it. He does, “Threatened by what? What do you mean?

    Etta: Disease.

    Me: Like some sort of illness?

    Jamie: She’s talking about some disease. I’d liked to say it was some sort of cancer, because it grows, but it’s not really cancer.

    Me: Okay. Well do you think you accomplished most of what you came here to do?

    Etta: I accomplished most of it.

    Me: Good. What sort of insights did you gain since your passing?

    (Pause)

    Jamie: She has such a smile! I can’t stop looking at it because of that lipstick.

    Etta: It was to my surprise after I passed that there was so much happiness that I never got to experience.

    Me: Aw.

    Etta: Now I wasn’t a depressed young lady. I was very happy. I was just so surprised that there was so much more that I didn’t do, and that was just like looking at other people on Earth and looking at what they found joyful and happy. It’s all simplicity—the simplicity of life.

    Me: Oh, I see. Can you share another life that you think influenced this last one?

    Etta (laughing): Oh, I’ve never heard of a question like that!

    Me: We get that a lot.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Etta) Okay, where are you in that life?

    (Pause)

    Jamie: She’s a male, and she has these cut skins from an animal.

    Me: Animal pelts?

    Jamie: Yes. They’re small. These are like possums or squirrels or raccoons, and she’s making little had drums.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: She’s got wax and –she’s really visual. She’s not really talking me through it much. She’s got this rope and she’s weaving the pelts, it looks like on what looks like a coconut. It’s hollow and large like a coconut. It makes these little sounds. She’s showing me she lived in South America. She’s saying it’s more tribal though. It’s like an Indian—

    Me: When was this?

    (Pause)

    Erik: Yeah, chronologically but in terms of Earth time.

    Etta: It was before my last lifetime.

    Jamie: It’s looking like the 1600s. She’s near the ocean, but she’s not on it.

    Etta: Most all of the stories—everything was told in song, music. I was the one who made the finger drums. I was not a good singer, but I got the rhythm that nobody could shake, but could not sing.

    Me: Well you sure made up for that!

    Etta: I feel like that life influenced me most and was the life that gave me a sense of calm and beauty. I always felt that wherever I was, I was going to be okay.

    Me: Aw, that’s wonderful. And you were right!

    Etta: I was; I was right.

    Me: Do you have any advice or messages for humanity or anybody in particular?

    Etta: My mom was always full of advice!

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Etta: She always had something to tell me, and you know I did not get that from her.  I can always think of wonderful things about five minutes too late!

    Jamie: She’s giggling

    Etta: I knew this was coming, and I just want to let people know that no matter how many times something has been done, when you do it, it personally belongs to you.

    Me: You can march to your own finger drum!

    Etta: Yes! Don’t give up and don’t stop if you’ve already seen it done, because the world hasn’t seen the way you’ve done it.

    Me: Oh, interesting. What wonderful advice! Now Erik, do you have any questions for Ms. James?

    Erik: No, I really like that.

    Me: All right. Well thank you very much, Etta. We really appreciate it. Are you doing okay in your new environment?

    Etta: I’m doing wonderful, I’ve been accepted with open arms.

    Me: Of course! Who wouldn’t accept Ms. Etta James! Again thank you so much for your time.

    Jamie: She’s waving. Aw, she gives Erik a little kiss on the cheek!

    Me: How sweet! Boy, you’re on everybody’s A list over there, Erik!

    Erik: Can you believe I got that kiss?

  • August1st

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    As promised, here’s the first celebrity post in a long, long time and the last post before I leave. Bon Voyage, peeps! I’m going to miss you. Good thing we’re in the more than capable hands of Michael Hulse! Thanks, Mikie-poo. Remember, no emails or Facebook messages until I get back, please! :-)

    Me: I guess we can call in the next one on the list, Luciano Pavarotti.

    I posted his interview before this one. Dur.

    Erik: No, he’s long winded.

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: I thought so. I knew that. What about Gregory Peck or Cary Grant then?

    Jamie: Gregory Peck. Isn’t he that dancer?

    Me: No, he’s that—oh I had such a crush on him—he’s an actor. For instance he was on “To kill a Mockingbird.”

    Erik (looking at Jamie and laughing): You suck, Jamie!

    Jamie laughs.

    Me (chuckling): How about John Denver or John Ritter?

    Jamie: Oh, he’s gone. He’s getting someone.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie (giggling): “You suck!”

    Me: So rude, that boy!

    Jamie: But it’s true! I can half –these names sound familiar, but so many of them were before my time.

    Way to make me feel like Methuseluh  (sp?)

    (Pause)

    Jamie (cheerfully): Hi!

    Me: Who’d we got?

    Jamie (laughing boisterously): Oh, my god, that’s John Ritter!

    Me: Oh, I love his work! “Three’s Company!”

    John: That’s what I’m mostly known for.

    Me: And then “Eight Simple Rules.”

    John: Ah, you’re definitely a fan!

    Me: Of course I am! I was so saddened by your passing. Such a funny man.

    John: Thank you. Thank you so much.

    Jamie: The wasyhe’s dressed, he looks like a professor. He’s got a little blazer on an khakis. Oh, he’s telling me he’s slimmed up a little bit. I think, um, he looks great. He’s clean-shaven.

    Me: His physical comedy was just amazing. He was a master of physical comedy.

    John (chuckling): Thank you.

    Me: Oh, come on; you have to agree, right?

    John: You know, I can’t complain. I had one of the best runs.

    Jamie: Oh, my phone’s going to die. Don’t go anywhere, John!

    John laughs.

    Jamie: I’m on the couch and Erik and John are sitting on the chairs in my white room. John’s hair still has that feathered look to it.

    Me: Oh, yeah, he had a great head of hair.

    John: I had a great chest of hair too!

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Me: Now, John, I guess the first question I’d like to ask is what was you’re spiritual mission here on the earthly plane?

    John (without hesitation): I know I was here for comic relief.

    Me: Well, the world needs a lot more of that.

    John: And I knew that from a young age. I couldn’t avoid being funny. In many ways it was wonderful. It did earn me a career, but in many ways it was difficult to handle, because I could be sincere. I could be deep. But the voice inside my head was (lifting his arms up) hysterical. It was really hard to get that voice to shut up.

    Me: Aw. Were you here to learn anything, John?

    John: Why come to Earth if you’re not going to learn anything?

    Me: True.

    John: I want to know what righteous bitch would think like that and go ahead and knock them off.

    Me (giggling): John!

    John: No, but seriously, I had a lot if struggles. I know that I was here to learn about relationships, and, like I said, I had a more difficult time being sincere. I’m an open man. I’m a very open man. I can tell you anything, but to convince you that it was very meaningful to me was something different. I know I was here, personally, to learn the joy and the strength of the union of people.

    Jamie: He has one elbow up and kind of casually has hand signals. You know, I totally want to group him with Carl Sagan.

    Me: Oh, really? Why, because he has a professorial look?

    Jamie (giggling): Yeah, like different. (to John ) At least you’re laughing too. Good. (to me) He’s laughing at that. But when he did get deep then, he reminded me of that sincere, solemn Carl Sagan.

    Me: Were you here to teach anything?

    John: Well, as being a father, as being a son, a husband, all those roles require you to be a teacher. I think maybe you’re mentioning something broader. If I was here to teach anything, it was definitely about comic relief. Don’t take yourself so seriously. You can’t!

    Me: Do you think you accomplished all that for the most part?

    Jamie (chuckling): He likes that: “For the most part.” He says, “I’ll take that one.”

    John: I’d like to think I was on the path to perfection, but I don’t think I would have ever achieved it well.

    Me: Do you think it was your destiny to die so young?

    John (taking a deep breath): No, I really think there were a lot of other elements at play. There were a lot of unseen, unknown factors, and we just have to accept that these elements led to a purpose. What was that purpose of me dying young? Not that I like to see the suffering of my family and friends. That was one thing I couldn’t handle well in my own life, but maybe it was to give my family an opportunity to feel what that is in order to have a fuller life.

    Me: So your family, through their suffering, would have a fuller life?

    John: Yes, but when you say it, it sounds really shitty.

    Me (in a sad voice): Yeah, I know all too well what that feels like.

    (Long pause)

    John: I took a lot of the brunt—a really didn’t let the people I love experience suffering  that I think they should have. I don’t like to see it; I don’t like it around. I’d rather absorb it like light to night. And in my absence, it gives those people a chance to have a full spectrum life.

    Me: Ah. I see.

    Jamie: He’s sad.

    Me: Aw. What sort of insights did you gain in crossing over, John?

    John: You don’t get superhuman powers.

    Jamie giggles.

    Me: Oh, dang it. I was rally counting on that.

    John laughs.

    John: Also, the size of your wallet definitely doesn’t matter, and I found that I loved deeper than I ever thought I was capable of. I felt so lucky that I could finally recognize that.

    Me: Aw. Did you recognize that before you passed?

    John: No, that was after. It helped me feel that I achieved something that I often saw in other people  but believed  I didn’t have.

    Me: How wonderful.

    (Pause)

    Me: Can you share another life that may have influenced your life as John Ritter?

    John: The one where I was John Ritter. That did a lot for me.

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Jamie: He’s just cracking up.

    Jamie: Okay, he’s showing me being born a midget. A boy midget. He lived to be about thirty, early thirties. He traveled with the circus. It looks like he’s in Europe, not America. Apparently he was a particularly small midget.

    John: Yeah, and my left arm was a nub.

    Jamie (laughing): The way he said it was really funny. I don’t really mean to laugh like that.

    John: And believe it or not, the people who were ooing and ahing –I never thought it was because of what I looked like. I knew I was different. I just thought it was because I was so damn funny, because I would try to perform. I had a routine, and it was wonderful. I knew then that I wanted to see—was I really that funny? Did I have what it took? So, I wanted that life where I could create that joy and that laughter without my appearance being in the way. I wanted to be an average Joe. I think I achieved that very well. I think I’m pretty much the average guy. So, I’d have to say that was the life that led me to kind of follow more into the silly path.

    Me: Yeah! Okay, any messages or advice for the world, for humanity, John?

    John: I’d have to stick with what I said before. Don’t take yourself so seriously.

    Me: So many people do.

    John: What a nightmare.

    Me: Oh, god. Erik, what about you? Do you have any questions for Mr. Ritter?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Inappropriate, Erik.

    Me: Uh oh.

    Jamie: I’ll tell you what he said. He goes, “Have you ever done any cocaine? Like other famous comedians, did you rely on drugs to keep you up and running?” It’s what Erik wanted to know personally.

    Me: That’s okay. I don’t have to make that public.

    John: It’s okay. The answer is XX.

    Me: I won’t put it on there. Don’t worry. Thank you so much, Mr. Ritter.

    John: You’re welcome.

    Jamie: He’s shaking hands with Erik.

    Sorry this was so short. At the time, I was worried about the fact that I had so many famous people on my list and not enough sessions or money and not a long enough lifespan to spend a lot of time on each. I could have asked so much more!

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  • July17th

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    I had a long conference call with my publisher yesterday, and she had some brilliant recommendations. I’m very disabled when it comes to taking advantage of social media, and that’s so important to the success of many things, including books. Each of these recommendations is a plea to you to help in some way. None of them are difficult and will allow us all to be in the fair exchange position of “I help you; now please help me.” I hope that you’ll take this as seriously  as I take this blog. I’m sure you all know how much blood, sweat and tears I put into this.

    My intent is not to pressure you or make you feel guilty. I’m just being emotionally honest because, in the past, simple requests such as asking people to “like” a Facebook page have largely gone unheeded. The blog gets around 8,000 hits a day, yet only around 200 comply with my simple requests. This is NOT whining. It’s just firm and loving honesty coming from Mama Medhus.

    Here are her suggestions, all of which I’ll remind you about to the point of annoyance! 

    1) Share Channeling Erik with at least one friend today. You might also send posts or a general message about Channeling Erik (or the book) to all of your email contacts.

    2) Share all posts on your Facebook timeline.

    3) I will post one of Erik’s sayings about every week on Facebook. Please share them on your timeline. Daniel has been extremely instrumental in these, including the design. Here’s an example:

    ErikQuote4

    4) Click “Like” on the following Facebook pages.

    CHANNELING ERIK

    ELISA MEDHUS, M.D.

    MY SON AND THE AFTERLIFE

    5) Join the CHANNELING ERIK FACEBOOK GROUP.

    BECOME PART OF SOMETHING BIG!

    Enjoy Part Two of the Hitler interview, and, although a challenge,  please try to have an open mind. 

    Me: Was that the only reason you did what you did (his childhood hardships), or was there some sort of spiritual mission or contract involved?

    (Very long pause)

    Jamie: He says it was a spiritual contract.

    Me: Can you elaborate on that? How was it supposed to help? What was your contract about?

    Hitler: It is unfortunate—

    (Pause)

    Jamie (whispering): He’s got these dramatic pauses.

    Hitler: –that the world requires conflict for a massive amount of joy.

    Me: What?

    Jamie: Mm hm. You heard it.

    Me: I don’t understand it, though. They need conflict in order to have massive amounts of joy?

    Hitler: This is the role I played. This is not the being I truly am.

    Jamie: He’s talking about unzipping out of the identity that we perceive him as so he may discuss this life as Hitler as a third party.

    Me: Okay. We can do that. Anything that makes you more comfortable. Okay, so you’re life as Adolf Hitler, which you are not. Um, you’re not that personality anymore. I understand that. What was the effect of that spiritual mission?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: This is kind of weird to look at. I’m glad I’m not alone in the room. Erik keeps cutting his eyes at me like, “What?” Now there are two images of Hitler in the room. There’s the gentleman in the dark suit, sitting down. When he was talking about unzipping, he kind of stepped out of himself. The gentleman that’s standing next to him I know is Hitler, though I don’t know. He looks lighter. He’s has soft features. The way he’s standing is soft. His posture’s not stiff. He’s not as groomed to a T, so he looks more causal. He is wearing a suit, but the suit is open. He’s pointing to the Hitler sitting down, and he’s saying, “This is the man that you want to discuss. This is the role I played on Earth. This is what you wish to discuss. It’s hard to have a conversation through him, because all of the confusion, the hatred, the thoughts from all over the world that’s placed on his name.” I am not sad about this. The people have a right to be angry. They have a right to feel, though I do not regret the role and the contract I played for the world. This war that I created—

    Jamie: It’s weird how he says I, not we. He totally takes it on himself. He’s not talking about countries.

    (Pause)

    Jamie: I asked him to back up. He’s being really kind to me.

    Me: Good.

    Jamie: The one standing. The one sitting is just—I swear to god, I don’t think that one has blinked. He’s still sitting very straight up.

    Hitler: This war that I created has given our history a focus and example of what to avoid and what to not create. I don’t have regrets because of how the world was shaped after it. It made changes that every culture needed to create for itself that didn’t have the fight or struggle that would make it so. I gave them the fight and the struggle. I knew what I needed to do before I was born and why I came. I will take that responsibility. I will never veer from it.

    Me: All right, so what was the effect. Was what you did mean to create more peace in the world?

    Jamie is talking over me. I can’t make out what she’s translating.

    Jamie: He just totally interrupted you!

    Hitler: It gave respect to beliefs, to religions. It gave cultures a way to bond. It gave society a structure to grow, and it gave people rights. It helped hand feed humanity to get to where it is today.

    Me: Was that what you were here to teach?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Me: Okay. What about to learn? Were you here to learn anything?

    Hitler: I was there to learn a lot of pain.

    Me: And why would that be necessary?

    Hitler: Because of who I am on this side, I’ve never had pain. It takes a strong soul to come through, to create such chaos. It’s a misconception to believe that only evil can create evil on Earth.

    Jamie gasps.

    Me: Okay. So, you said you didn’t have any regrets about creating the war. Do you have any other regrets?

    Hitler: I know very much—

    Jamie: Okay, that’s translated a little bit weird.

    Hitler: I know very much that people would want me to say how I regret the death and the suffering of so many people’s lives.

    Me: Do you think you overstepped the boundaries?

    Jamie: Oh my god. I hear “no”.

    Hitler: This is what I was supposed to come in to do.

    Me: Did you receive any help from your guides to create such a mass effect on the world?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Look up the next two parts by going clicking on “Hitler” in the categories list!

    Thanks for helping me out, guys. I love you all. 

  • July1st

    31 Comments

    Just a reminder: I’ll be leaving the country tomorrow and will return the 13th. Until then, Mike Hulse will be approving comments and publishing posts. Thank you, Miguelito! Please refrain from sending me any emails or Facebook messages while I’m gone because it’ll be too overwhelming to come back to thousands of them right after getting some well needed R & R. 

    I’m posting this Best of Erik because most of us had a hard time wrapping our minds around the thought that there is no evil. What we call “evil” is just the darker end of the spectrum of light, it’s light nonetheless. Many so-called evil historic figures actually committed atrocities as part of a spiritual agreement to help the masses in some way, so they actually put their reputations on the line and suffer a lot from the hatred they receive. I’m not trivializing the victims’ pain. I’m just asking you to consider all perspectives. Remember, I also have trouble reconciling my heart  and mind with all of this so we’re in the same boat learning together.

    Me: Erik, can you go get Adolf Hitler in here?

    Jamie (nervously): Oh my god!

    I giggle.

    Erik: We’re really doing this?

    Jamie: Yeah.

    Me: Well, is it okay with you, Jamie?

    Jamie: Mm hm.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Done.

    Me: All right!

    Jamie: No, he just left.

    Me: Oh, he left.

    Jamie: He was arguing with me. He goes, “I’m not going to go get him! You don’t treat him like an asshole. You treat him like a person. Don’t have any preconceptions.” And I was like, ‘Okay, fine, fine. I’m letting it go.’

    Me: I’ve got some benign questions. I don’t have anything mean. (although he deserves to be raked over the coals for what he did.)

    (Pause)

    Jamie: I bet he doesn’t get called in for a lot of things for a casual discussion. He probably gets a lot of hate mail.

    Me: Oh, poor guy.

    I can’t believe I just said that, but…

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Yes, I’m ready!

    Me: Oh?

    Jamie: He just popped back in and said, “Are you ready?”

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik, slightly irritated): Yeah, stop!

    Me: It’s like, “Heeeeere’s Adolf!” instead of “Heeeeere’s Johnny!” and he comes out from the curtain.

    Jamie: Oh my god.

    (Pause)

    Me: So, he’s there?

    Jamie: Yeah, he’s here.

    Me: Hello, Mr. Hitler. How are you doing?

    Hitler: Fine, thank you.

    Erik (to Hitler): Take a seat.

    Me: What does he look like, and what’s his mood?

    Jamie: He’s got very stiff posture. There’s nothing fluid about him. (In a hushed tone) Um, his eyes are really dark. His eyebrows are kind of sinking low like his eye sockets don’t have a lot of space. I don’t know if that makes sense.

    Me (teasing): No, but go on.

    Jamie: Droopy. Droopy eyebrows. You know, that skin above?

    Me: Mm hm.

    Jamie: He’s just looking out. I don’t think I’ve seen him blink yet!

    Me: Wow. What is he wearing, a military uniform?

    Jamie: No, it’s a dark, probably black suit, and he has a tie on underneath it with a kind of high collar.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: But the jacket is buttoned up, and there are several buttons to it. It’s not like a casual suit like we see today. He’s shorter than I thought he would be.

    Me: Does he seem comfortable and relaxed now?

    Jamie: No, he’s sitting straight up in the chair, very—

    Me: Anxious? Nervous?

    Jamie: Are you? No. He told me “no”.

    Me: Oh, good. All right. Let’s start with the questions, then. Tell us about your childhood. Did it have anything to do with the atrocities you committed here on the earthly plane? I’m sorry’ I can’t think of another word.

    Hitler: Every man’s life’s actions are based on how he was created.

    Erik: So, is that a yes?

    Jamie laughs.

    Jamie: And you know what’s interesting? Erik is sitting on my side of the room. He’s next to me.  Commonly, he stands next to the person we’re interviewing or sits next to them, but no, he’s on the same side of the room as I am. I almost feel like we’re interrogating him.

    Me: Why is that, Erik?

    Erik: I didn’t realize I did it.

    Me: Okay. So, were there incidents in your childhood that caused you to do what you did?

    Hitler: I never had much consistency in my family. There was not a lot of beauty. There was much disgrace within my family.

    Me: What do you mean, skeletons in the closet?

    Jamie and Erik giggle,

    Jamie: Oh, Erik and I giggle at that, but he did NOT giggle.

    Hitler: Yes. It is true that many lives in the family. I was displaced within my family.

    Jamie: He’s saying he wasn’t raised by two traditional parents. The mother died, or the mother left?

    Me: I don’t know.

    Jamie: He’s showing me, as a child, he stopped having his mother. I can’t tell if she died or he moved. He’s not being very clear about it.

    Hitler: I never thought I belonged to anyone. I was untethered, and I didn’t feel like I had any family or religion to lean on, not a country to feel a part of. I helped create that for myself.

    Me: Ah!

    Me: Was that the only reason you did what you did (his childhood hardships), or was there some sort of spiritual mission or contract involved?

    (Very long pause)

    Jamie: He says it was a spiritual contract.

    Me: Can you elaborate on that? How was it supposed to help? What was your contract about?

    Hitler: It is unfortunate—

    (Pause)

    Jamie (whispering): He’s got these dramatic pauses.

    Hitler: –that the world requires conflict for a massive amount of joy.

    Me: What?

    Jamie: Mm hm. You heard it.

    Me: I don’t understand it, though. They need conflict in order to have massive amounts of joy?

    Hitler: This is the role I played. This is not the being I truly am.

    Jamie: He’s talking about unzipping out of the identity that we perceive him as so he may discuss this life as Hitler as a third party.

    Me: Okay. We can do that. Anything that makes you more comfortable. Okay, so you’re life as Adolf Hitler, which you are not. Um, you’re not that personality anymore. I understand that. What was the effect of that spiritual mission?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: This is kind of weird to look at. I’m glad I’m not alone in the room. Erik keeps cutting his eyes at me like, “What?” Now there are two images of Hitler in the room. There’s the gentleman in the dark suit, sitting down. When he was talking about unzipping, he kind of stepped out of himself. The gentleman that’s standing next to him I know is Hitler, though I don’t know. He looks lighter. He’s has soft features. The way he’s standing is soft. His posture’s not stiff. He’s not as groomed to a T, so he looks more causal. He is wearing a suit, but the suit is open. He’s pointing to the Hitler sitting down, and he’s saying, “This is the man that you want to discuss. This is the role I played on Earth. This is what you wish to discuss. It’s hard to have a conversation through him, because all of the confusion, the hatred, the thoughts from all over the world that’s placed on his name.” I am not sad about this. The people have a right to be angry. They have a right to feel, though I do not regret the role and the contract I played for the world. This war that I created—

    Jamie: It’s weird how he says I, not we. He totally takes it on himself. He’s not talking about countries.

    (Pause)

    Jamie: I asked him to back up. He’s being really kind to me.

    Me: Good.

    Jamie: The one standing. The one sitting is just—I swear to god, I don’t think that one has blinked. He’s still sitting very straight up.

    Hitler: This war that I created has given our history a focus and example of what to avoid and what to not create. I don’t have regrets because of how the world was shaped after it. It made changes that every culture needed to create for itself that didn’t have the fight or struggle that would make it so. I gave them the fight and the struggle. I knew what I needed to do before I was born and why I came. I will take that responsibility. I will never veer from it.

    Me: All right, so what was the effect. Was what you did mean to create more peace in the world?

    Jamie is talking over me. I can’t make out what she’s translating.

    Jamie: He just totally interrupted you!

    Hitler: It gave respect to beliefs, to religions. It gave cultures a way to bond. It gave society a structure to grow, and it gave people rights. It helped hand feed humanity to get to where it is today.

    Me: Was that what you were here to teach?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Me: Okay. What about to learn? Were you here to learn anything?

    Hitler: I was there to learn a lot of pain.

    Me: And why would that be necessary?

    Hitler: Because of who I am on this side, I’ve never had pain. It takes a strong soul to come through, to create such chaos. It’s a misconception to believe that only evil can create evil on Earth.

    Jamie gasps.

    Me: Okay. So, you said you didn’t have any regrets about creating the war. Do you have any other regrets?

    Hitler: I know very much—

    Jamie: Okay, that’s translated a little bit weird.

    Hitler: I know very much that people would want me to say how I regret the death and the suffering of so many people’s lives.

    Me: Do you think you overstepped the boundaries?

    Jamie: Oh my god. I hear “no”.

    Hitler: This is what I was supposed to come in to do.

    Me: Did you receive any help from your guides to create such a mass effect on the world?

    Hitler: Yes.

    Me: And what was your secret? How did you create this massive war? How were you able to convince the masses to make this all happen?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Holy shit! (Turning her head to Erik) Am I going to say that?

    Me: Ah oh.

    Jamie: Oh my god. You—I don’t wanna be in that. Can I type it out for you?

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Sure, but why? Go ahead and say it! C’mon!

    Jamie: Elisa. (Pause) I would never, uh, Erik.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Sorry. I didn’t mean to make such quietness!

    Jamie giggles nervously. She’s clearly uncomfortable with whatever Hitler said.

    Jamie: He said, “How did Jesus get so many followers? What did he do?”

    Good god. That comparison seems like a bit of a stretch. I’m afraid to go on, but I do.

    Me: And, what did he do?

    Hitler: It is a charisma. It is an attraction to the person and the strength of that person’s beliefs. It’s the ideology of feeling safe and guided and taught. I provided a role that I could take care of this country, of these people, that through this war I would give them the greatness that they seek, and I found people who would help me. I had thousands doing my bidding and by choice, not by force. This is what so many people forget.

    Me: Ah! Did you have any disease—mental or physical—that made you, um, I mean, that created some of your actions?

    I laugh at my own stuttering.

    Hitler: Physical?

    Me: Yeah.

    Jamie laughs.

    Jamie: Egocentric n-na…. I was going to say what he was saying, but—

    Me: I was going to say did something make you crazy, but that’s not exactly what I mean. It’s disrespectful, but that’s, you know—

    Hitler: I believe any man who has accepted a role of power lets it go to his head, and if we want to consider that mental illness, then so be it.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: But no, if we ask him technically, no.

    Me: Okay. Now, when you crossed over, what was your life review like? Did you have any epiphanies or realizations?

    (Very long pause)

    Jamie: He was telling me he remembers being afraid of death.

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: I’m not ashamed to say this out loud.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Did he, really? (To me) Erik was telling me he shot himself.

    Me: Yep.

    Jamie: I thought he got shot.

    Me: No, he shot himself. Well, I don’t know. I’m pretty sure.

    Erik (looking at Jamie): Nope.

    Erik (pointing at Hitler, then pointing at himself): We’re in a club.

    Jamie giggles.

    Me (slightly upset): Oh, no. Oh, Erik. That’s not a good club to be in.

    Erik: For different reasons.

    Hitler: I didn’t want to be imprisoned. I didn’t want to suffer. I was terrified of that. It kept me awake at night.

    Me: Obviously while he was alive (dur).

    Jamie: Yes.

    Me (laughing at my stupid remark): Yes, of course.

    Hitler: So, after I died, I just remembered darkness for what I think was a long time—probably many Earth years. I believed it was necessary for me to help forgive myself and heal myself for the contract I agreed to.

    Me: But eventually, you had your life review, right?

    Hitler: No.

    Me: You did not have a life review?!

    (Pause)

    Jamie: He did not!

    Me: Wow. Interesting. When you woke up, and you reflected on your contract, did you have any epiphanies or realizations?

    Hitler: Those years in darkness—that’s what helped me identify my contract and heal myself.

    Me: Okay. I gotcha.

    Hitler: I played this role for the greater cause of humanity. I did not choose this role or develop this role for self-centering needs.

    Me: Can you share a life that most influenced your life as Adolf Hitler?

    (Pause)

    Jamie (shocked): No!

    Me: Because you refuse to, or.,,

    Jamie: Uh, I don’t think there’s a life! Can I share what I think it is?

    Me: Go ahead.

    Jamie: Like just from the way he’s talking and what he’s showing me?

    Me: Mm hm.

    Jamie: I don’t feel like Hitler’s spirit is kind of a mix of things like the average human. We reincarnate; we grow; we shift. It’s more of like—I cannot believe I’m going to say this—more of like an angelic energy.

    Oh no. This is not going to get good reactions. I might have to be under the Witness Protection Program.

    Me (in disbelief): Wow.

    Jamie: I know, I—

    Me: Like an archangel?

    How could I be even thinking this of a man who’s committed such atrocities?

    Jamie: No, and I don’t believe he’s an angel, either, but when I hear angels talk to me about being on Earth, they don’t take place in this reincarnation back-to-back where this grow thing happens over so many lives. They have really specific reasons to be on Earth, and so to have—cuz when you talk about a past life, you really couldn’t, uh, he couldn’t show me anything.

    Me: Hm.

    Jamie: I don’t feel like this is his one and only life on Earth, but I feel like it’s such a unique contract seed, you know, this gathering of purpose, that there really wasn’t an inflection—it really wasn’t based on any kind of character or purpose or development.

    Me: I see. I understand. What would the world have been like if you had not done the things that you did?

    Hitler: Still much separation between races and cultures.

    Me: Okay. Anything else?

    Jamie (chuckling): My god. He just smiled!

    Hitler: I like to think I had influence on the industrial era.

    Jamie: And he smiled. You can tell it’s something he took pride in.

    Me: Well, he did.

    Jamie: Design and factories and metals. He’s proud of that, but you know when you talk about the war and everything, there was no smiling and no pride behind it. It was designed. It was a contract.

    Me: It was something he had to do but wasn’t proud of? Weren’t you ashamed of it?

    Hitler: I cannot be. I did what I was meant to do.

    Me: I see. Do you have any messages for humanity, at all? Any advice or messages?

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: We are in a world today, that if you feel strongly about your beliefs, you must stand up as an individual and make it heard, but it is very important to know what needs to be heard—

    (Pause as Jamie listens to Hitler)

    Jamie (to Hitler): Yeah, your translation is backwards again here.

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Sorry. We’re talking about the way he just translated that. Cuz he said what needs to be heard must be based on the whole. He’s giving a lot of imagery with it. So, basically, if you believe in something, don’t follow somebody else’s ideas. Stand up for your own ideas. But the only way you know if those ideas are valuable is if they’re helping the whole, the entirety: the family unit that you’re in, the company that you’re in, the state, the governments, the nation, the world—it’s gotta be a united front, not a single front.

    Me: Okay. How would you envision the perfect world to be?

    (Long pause)

    Hitler: Where there is no hatred.

    Me: Mm. Will we ever have it?

    Hitler: I see that we are getting close, and I know that the world can sustain it.

    Me: Okay.

    Erik (to Hitler): So, will we ever have it?

    Hitler: For this, I don’t know.

    Me: Okay. Now, Erik, what question do you have?

    Erik: I wanna ask one thing:  When you came out of that darkness, did you just look at yourself and say, “That was some fucked up shit!”?

    Jamie: Believe it or not, that got the second smile out of him.

    (Long pause)

    Me: And?

    Jamie: He’s pausing.

    Me: Oh, okay.

    Jamie (laughing): Sorry. The quietness again!

    Hitler: I know where you are coming from. I understand where you are coming from, but that life to me was no surprise. I was designed for it.

    Me: Okay. Jamie, do you have any questions?

    Jamie (emphatically): Huh uh!

    Me: Thanks so much. We’ve learned a lot from you. I hope that helps you, too.

    Hitler: Thank you. Have a good day. Goodbye.

    Jamie: The one sitting down stands up, straightens his pants, walks straight out. Doesn’t say goodbye to me, acknowledge me, nothing.

    Me: Hm.

    Jamie: And the other Adolf that’s standing more casually waves. The one standing had kind of a tan suit on. This was weird. It’s almost like the world has created so much thought and descriptions of who Adolf should be, even in spirit, that he can’t come out of that design, that container from what the mass of thoughts and emotions have put on him. So, it’s almost like he divided himself so that one image can live so that people can put their hatred in one place or that healing or whatever they’re doing in that one location, and he can still be himself and house that (other Adolf), cuz he’s definitely, like I said, he’s not backing away from any of it.

    Me: Wow! It’s interesting. Okay. That was a really good interview. We’ll see what kind of response that gets from the blog!

    Jamie: Holy shit. Can you—I almost just about fell out of my chair when you asked him—I can’t even remember the question…

    Me: Yeah, about him being like Jesus or something? How did he—

    Jamie (laughing): I looked at Erik and said, ‘Holy shit, I’m not saying it.’ and he said, “Fucking say it. C’mon!” He said I was being a p-u-s-s-y.

    We both giggle.

    Jamie: And that’s when I asked, ‘Can I write it down?’

    Me: Nah, you can say it, and it’s going to go on the blog, so…

    Jamie: Holy fuck.

    Erik’s been a bad influence on Jamie, language-wise. I rarely hear her curse.

    Me: No editing here.

    Jamie lets in a loud gasp.

     

  • June6th

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    For the last three days, I’ve been in roofer hell. Starting at 6:00 AM, here comes the relentless hammering. But, because our roof is 22 years old and leaking like a sieve, it was time. So bad was the leaking that two of our bathroom ceilings are destroyed. Rune has had to pierce one of them with a really big screwdriver just to let the water drain into buckets. Now we have to just bite the bullet and remodel them. It’s time for that, too because both of the bathrooms scream the early 90s. Remodeling hell to be announced. Enough griping. Enjoy Ms. Billie Holiday.

    Me: Erik, can you get Billie Holiday? She’s next on our list, and I just loved her music!

    Jamie: Oh, that’s a her?

    Me: Oh, yeah. She’s a famous black singer. Or he can get another singer if her wants.

    Jamie: He’s already gone.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: I thought Billie Holiday was a guy. Who am I thinking of?

    Me: Oh, Buddy Holly maybe?

    Jamie: Buddy Holly! That’s right.

    Me: We already interviewed him.

    Billie Holiday enters the room with Erik.

    Jamie: Wow, she is fabulous, this woman.

    Me: Really?

    Jamie (to Billie) Hi! (to me) She’s elegant.

    Me: Hello, Ms. Holiday.

    Jamie: The hair, the earrings, the makeup—just so elegant.

    Me: You know, I think she influenced Whitney Houston a lot. I’m sure they’ve already met.

    Billie: I’ve already welcomed her over. We’re all trying to make her feel comfortable. She just needs time with her family.

    Me: Oh, yes, she does. I suppose you know why you’re here.

    Billie: Yes, ma’am.

    Me: Thank you so much. It’s such an honor to meet you.

    Billie: Thank you for having me.

    Me: My first question is what was your spiritual mission while you were here on the earthly plane?

    Jamie: Her posture, the way she’s sitting, just everything is so—

    Me: Elegant?

    Jamie: Yes! She’s a fine woman.

    Me: She has quite the presence.

    Jamie: I said in my head, “When I grow up I’d like to be like you,” and Erik said, “You’re never growing up, Jamie.”

    Jamie and I laugh.

    Billie: I would like to think my spiritual journey on Earth was more related to music than anything else. I made a family out of my music.

    (Pause)

    Me: Were you here to learn or teach anything?

    Billie: I had a difficult childhood. Nothing in my life was every seated—

    Jamie: She has a little bit of an accent. I don’t know what it is though.

    Billie: Nothing in my life was really every seated with consistency. There was a lot of jumping up and around.

    Me: Did she move around a lot? Is that what she’s saying?

    Billie: Yes, I moved around a lot, but it wasn’t always with the family.

    Jamie: She wasn’t orphaned, but there was some sort of consent around the family for her to move from one family member to the next maybe. A lot of it had to do with money.

    Me: So she was passed along from one family member to the next depending on the money situation?

    Billie: Yes, and I chose to work my life the best I knew how, which wasn’t always the best choices. It was through those experiences that gave me enough power to sing about it. It was my hope that, in my music and in my fame, I created a vicarious way for others to watch how it was to be a black woman in that age and time.

    Jamie: She’s saying she didn’t (to Billie) Okay was it because you were older, or was it because you passed away? (pause) She didn’t, she only had a short part in her life where she was able to celebrate the African American freedom.

    Me: Oh, okay.

    Billie (giggling: People don’t see me as being that old.

    Me: So she wasn’t around to celebrate the civil rights movement?

    Billie: Only for a short time.

    Me: Do you think you accomplished most of what you set out to do, spiritually speaking?

    Jamie: She smiles really wide. I mean, she’s got a wide smile.

    Billie: I had no other choice.

    Me: So you did.

    Billie: I did everything I knew how to do. I don’t have any regrets.

    Me: That’s good. Not everybody can say that, Billie! That’s wonderful.

    Billie: I’m not saying I’m proud of everything I’ve done, but I am saying I own up to it, so I don’t have a regret for doing it.

    Jamie: The way she talks—you know how you talk to a political person?

    Me: Mm hm.

    Jamie: To really share the economy of the time, the community movement or lifestyle. When she talks, it’s not just about her, it’s about the influence of how people viewed her or how her town was set up or what she wasn’t given and how she had to go around it. She’s really aware emotionally of these elements. She’s a really well-rounded speaker. I don’t think I’m doing her justice.

    Me: Mm. Interesting. So, what insights did you gain after you passed over, Billie?

    Billie: After I passed over, I didn’t realize how hard I was working.

    Me: Yes, considering the times and the hardships that African Americans had, yeah. You probably had to work three or four times harder than the Caucasian singers.

    Billie: Everybody was trying to tell me I was wrong or that—

    Jamie (giggling to Billie): What? (to me) Okay, so apparently she was, um, she’s explaining to me that there were a few times in her career where she got into some legal trouble, and even though she remained a lady all the way through it doesn’t mean she didn’t have to steal a little bit to make things livable. So, she has this righteousness and this idea that everybody needs to be fair.

    Me: But yet…

    Jamie: Oh, yeah. Sorry. She’s not very good at sticking to the question, is she?

    I laugh.

    Jamie: What was the question?

    Me: No, I think she answered it adequately. Billie, can you share another life that influence your life as Ms. Holiday?

    Billie: I was a slave, a female slave. I was born into it, separated from my mother. So, when I was old enough, I was sold to another family. I was pretty enough to work inside a house, but it was so difficult because I would watch my friends that I’d grown to know out in the fields hurting and dying and suffering.

    Jamie: She’s showing me images of this double galley kitchen. The ceilings are tall. It looks like a cooking kitchen, maybe like a maid’s kitchen.

    Billie: I would sneak the food before I made the big serving plates, hiding the food so I could have something to eat later and give to the people in the fields.

    Jamie: So she does have this Robinhood thing to her.

    Billie: All I wanted was to take the music that I grew to love to keep me grounded. I wanted to take it public; I wanted to have that opportunity to sing loud and have everybody listen to me, and I got just that. I got what I wanted.

    Jamie: It sounds like she kept a lot of her characteristics like stealing just a little.

    Me: Yeah. Any messages or advice for humanity?

    Billie: Looks do go far, but it’s what’s in the heart that matters.

    Me: So true. How about you, Erik? Do you have any questions for Ms. Holiday?

    Jamie: Erik was teasing her. He said, “So what, you have to look good so you can get deep into the heart and punch it?”

    I’m not sure what he means but I chuckle anyway.

    Billie (laughing): He full o’ sass, that boy!

    Me: He is full of sass; that’ true! Any other questions, Erik? I don’t know if that one really counts.

    Jamie: She says to you that your son can play guitar.

    Me: Yeah, that’s right!

    Billie: His skills are continuing to grow.

    Me: Oh, good. He’s practicing. Maybe y’all can jam together. He used to love the blues. Maybe he still does.

    Erik: Yeah, I do.

    Billie: Yes, I would love that. You should pick up a mandolin, Erik.

    Me: Oh, I love the mandolin. Beautiful instrument. Okay, Ms. Holiday. Is there anything else you’d like to say?

    Billie: No ma’am. I hope that what I have said has helped you with your efforts. I really don’t think anything that I’ve said was very important.

    Me: Oh of course it was and is! And your music was very important then and still is today. Thank you so much, Ms. Holiday.

    Billie: Thank you.

    Jamie: She has a dress on. It’s fitted around the waist, and it kind of bells out like an A frame below the knee, but she has these—I would call them gloves but they have no fingers to them! It covers more than the wrist. I think it covers the top of the hand but there’s absolutely no fingers to them.

    Me: Interesting.

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  • May27th

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    I’m sad to announce the death, this weekend, of blog member, Kris Abrams. She was always so active on the blog and the Channeling Erik Facebook group. She was also very generous, recently offering to pay for someone to join the trance channeling event tomorrow. I’m just crushed for her and her family, but I know Erik has her under his wing and, together, they’ll guide her family and friends to find peace. Please send loving energy and prayers. 

    Given that news, it feels sacrilegious to remind you of that Channeling Erik event. Nevertheless, I’m sure Kris would want you to be a part of it, and maybe she’ll join Erik while he does his mischief. Maybe we can ask him for a message from her. Please sign up HERE to be able watch and participate. It’s tomorrow from 6:00 to 7:30 PM CDT. You can sign on up to 30 minutes in advance to put your question in queue for Erik. There will only be one question per person at first, then we’ll go around the list for a second one if we can. Please ask questions that you know won’t require very lengthy answers. All questions are acceptable, personal and general. 

    Erik's Puppet. Poor Jamie.

    Erik’s Puppet. Poor Jamie.

    Now, as promised, here’s Celebrity Friday’s post, a bit delayed!

    Me: Okay Erik, are you ready to interview the next celebrity?

    Jamie (laughing): Erik just changed his clothes and he’s wearing something nice.

    Jamie (to Erik): Are you inviting someone nice, today?

    (Pause as Jamie listens)

    Jamie (to Erik): Who’s coming today, then?

    Me: You pick out anybody you want, Baby.

    (I list several celebrity names.)

    Jamie: He’s gone.

    Me: Okay, so I’ve been blabbering on to myself. Like a fool!

    Jamie laughs.

    Jamie: Mr. Disney is here!

    Me: Oh, awesome! Hi, Mr. Disney!

    Jamie: He’s got a great voice.

    Me: I’ve enjoyed all of your parks!

    Walt: Why, thank you.

    Me: So, do you know why you’re here?

    Walt: Yes, I believe we’re going to do an interview.

    Me: That’s right. As if you haven’t had enough already, right?

    Walt: I quite enjoy them. Especially if they spark the curiosity of those who are listening.

    Me: That sounds like something you would say. Okay, our first question is what was your spiritual mission here on Earth as Walt Disney?

    (Pause)

    Walt: To suspend belief.

    Me: Oh! Can you tell me a little bit more?

    Walt: Coming from where I did in my life—

    Jamie: He says he’s from an immigrated family. Not much money. Money was all about survival.

    Walt: It was only—

    Jamie: He’s speaking so much better than I am. I apologize. He’s a good storyteller.

    Me: Of course.

    Walt: The only moments of childhood that were beautiful—the memories that were so special to me—were all from storytelling from my grandmother, my mother—even my younger sister had the ability to weave a tale. And it became—

    Jamie (to Walt, frustrated): Oh, I so wish I could keep up with you. I’m sorry.

    Jamie (to me): He’s laughing with me. Aw, he’s patting my shoulder.

    Me: Aw!

    Jamie (to Walt): You sweet thing. Okay, continue. Sorry.

    Walt (to Jamie, laughing): Don’t be so nervous!

    Jamie giggles.

    Walt: The memories that we cherished the most were the ones that we created through imagination, storytelling. When you suspend the person’s belief system and allow them to escape, whether it’s into fantasy or daydream or even into problem solving, you have to suspend that moment unattached to anything within their life. I found that that’s when people smiled the biggest. So, I knew it was my mission to suspend belief so that people could have that one moment without care, without worry, without harm, and create this inner harnest of—

    Jamie (to Walt): Inner harnest? No. Harness, thank you.

    Walt: To harness this inner sense of creativity, compassion and, what most people don’t get to experience, peace, and peace within a community.

    Me: Hm. How wonderful, and you did that in all of your creations. Now, of all of your creations, which was your favorite, your personal favorite?

    (Long pause)

    Walt: It would be a shame if I didn’t say Mickey.

    Me: Oh, yeah. Steamboat Willie.

    Walt: That’s what took it all off running. It blasted everything forward.

    Me: Were you here to learn anything?

    Walt: I know I was here to learn about grief, sorrow, struggle.

    Jamie: Um, he’s talking about being in a war or working with the war.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie (to Walt): World War One?

    Jamie (to me): Is the timing right?

    Me: I would think so.

    Jamie: He’s smiling at me.

    Walt: I’m older than you think!

    Jamie (to Walt): Okay. Okay then.

    Walt: In the war, I was able to see so much pain and suffering and distress—the emotional shredding of someone. In some situations, you could provide assistance, physical assistance that gave a response. There were many occasions where you couldn’t provide anything, that you could only be with the person. And when you are in that place, there are no words—no words that are acceptable except words of dreams. It will take somebody out of pain in an instance; it will put a smile on their face no matter how much they are feeling. I know I was here to learn that suffering so that I could be a remedy through smiles, through laughter.

    Me: Well said. Were you here to teach anything?

    Walt: I really think maybe I was teaching publicly through my choice of career. We had not had this kind of laugh therapy, this suspension of belief therapy for adults. We had it for our children; it was the elders who told stories to the little ones, but as I grew older, I found that the ones who needed it the most were the adults.

    Me: Yeah.

    Walt: So, why couldn’t we have something that was for all ages—that no one would look down on you if you were past the “appropriate age” to enjoy a good story. I hope, if I have taught anything throughout my life, it is that laughter, healing, suspension of belief, storytelling, is for everyone, and it was truly, for me, a lost art as I grew up in America. It wasn’t done in a way that was done traditionally in other cultures.

    Me: Do you think you accomplished all that you came here to do? It seems like you did.

    Jamie: He’s nodding his head yes.

    Walt: It’s one of my most—

    Jamie (giggling): Erik is goofing off with him all of a sudden.

    I laugh. Typical.

    Jamie: But he still follows up that he did achieve everything. He accomplished everything he wanted to: with family all the way up to the moment he left his career, his company and how it still grows.

    Walt: I’m very happy about it.

    Me: Awesome. Can you describe one of the lives that you think most influenced your life as Walt Disney?

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (laughing, to Walt): Is this a joke, or is it real? I just want to make sure!

    I laugh, too.

    Jamie: He’s just telling me a story.

    Me: Of course—the master story-teller!

    Jamie: He and Erik are teasing each other, and I thought maybe, but no, he says he’s really sharing this. It was a past life that he had. He grew up in Ireland, and he was a little boy. He stayed a little boy.

    Walt: I was a dwarf.

    Jamie (whispering): That just made me think of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves! That’s why I thought he was teasing me!

    Me: Oh!

    Jamie: That was bad of me, wasn’t it?

    Me: Well, maybe that’s where he got the idea for the movie.

    Walt: There wasn’t anything in modern-day –what was modern-day then—

    Jamie (to Walt): Nineteen thirties? Is Snow White that old?

    Walt: Oh, yes!

    Me: That’s right.

    Walt: There wasn’t anything at the time that addressed the working aspect or the positive aspect of being a little person. So I wanted to give them unique characters and make them human.

    Me: Oh, yeah!

    Walt: But in my life in Ireland, I was born into a family of “normal” people. Normal adult parents. I was the only sibling that was a dwarf. My parents treated me just the same. There was nothing different within my household, but everything was different outside my household. So I spent a lot of my time inside and a lot of it was creating humorous stories. Funny. I must say I was a funny little boy, a funny little man, but I was never really given the right to really express those stories outside. It was just shared within the family.

    Me: Yeah.

    Walt: And being small, even as an adult, I kept thinking, “Wow, when you’re an adult but you’re still a small size, there are so many things that we can invent and create for our children.” So I wanted a life where I could have that opportunity and remember how important it was to focus on size—the art of perspective. This inspired me, all those many decades of–

    (Pause)

    Jamie: Oh, so he lived to be just under thirty years old as a dwarf.

    Me: Yeah. That was probably pretty typical. Very interesting. Now, are you incarnated at this time on the Earthly plane in terms of our linear time?

    Walt: No.

    Me: Okay. Do you have any messages for us or anything else you’d like to say?

    Jamie (chuckling): It’s so funny to hear you say, “Mr. Disney”! That’s so cool that we’re talking to him!

    Me: That is cool!

    Walt (smiling): Of course I would love a whole segment dedicated to me so that I could continue to encourage people to stay young. I think the most valuable piece of advice is—

    (Long pause)

    Jamie: Wow, I just got lost.

    Me: Aw!

    Jamie: He-he—stop it, Erik! (to me) He’s messing me up.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Stop it!

    Me: Erik!

    Jamie: I swear, he must have been my brother in another lifetime! He’s too much. Okay, sorry Walt Disney. Can you start again?

    Walt (Chuckling): As a human, we are the only animal and mammal on Earth that has the unique ability to be able to “forward think,” to suspend belief—

    Jamie: He loves the word, “suspend”.

    Walt: — and to play out scenarios within our heads before we even enter into them physically.

    Me: Absolutely.

    Walt: To be able to see how an outcome might play out and affect us. We can base our actions on that talent, but here’s the important piece: No matter how brilliant you are and how smart your mind is, no matter how forward thinking you are, you’ll never know the outcome until you do it.

    Me: That’s true.

    Walt: That’s the most important piece.

    Me: Very wise.

    Jamie: He actually just kind of blew a kiss, kind of out. He  says, “Thank you.” Does he know—is this the last question?

    Me: Well, I was wondering if Erik had any questions.

    Jamie listens to Erik, then laughs.

    Jamie: No, but he and Walt—Mr. Disney—have decided that of course Erik says he gets free admission into any of the parks. That’s funny, of course, because he no longer needs a ticket.

    Me: All right, well, thank you so much, Mr. Disney. I really appreciate it.

    Walt: You’re welcome, and thank you for your effort.

    Jamie: He blows another kiss and waves.

    Me: Bye.

    Jamie: So, here’s what Erik was screwing with me about. He wanted to ask Walt Disney if he was actually frozen—cryogenically, uh, you know, has his corpse been frozen somewhere in Disneyland.

    Me: Oh, yeah! I heard rumors about that. And?

    Walt: No, I don’t. I was cremated.

    Me: Interesting. I completely forgot about that thing. Dang, that’s a great question, Erik!

    Jamie: But Erik was like, “C’mon, ask him if he was frozen,” and I was like, ‘Oh my god, Erik, don’t do this!’

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  • May16th

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    My father is now in the hospital in grave condition. Please excuse the fact that I didn’t edit any of the following post and that this introduction is so short. Pray for his peaceful transition. 

    Me: Let’s see if we can get Bob Hope in here. He was such a funny guy. Want to?

    Jamie: Oh, I hope we get the young—Oh, he’s gone. I guess that’s a yes. I hope we get young Bob Hope.

    Me: Oh, yeah.

    Jamie: Did he do, um, oh hi! Hi!

    Me: Well that was quick.

    Jamie (to Bob Hope, giggling): Did you hear me?

    Bob: I don’t know how young I am, but I hope it’s good enough for you!

    Me: Oh my god, he’s been eavesdropping!

    Jamie: He probably knew he was coming.

    Me: Oh yeah. Hello Mr. Hope.

    Bob: Good morning, ladies.

    Me: We were talking about hope in the earlier segment, so that reminded me of how much hope you gave to so many soldiers.

    Bob: Hope definitely comes with a lot of laughter.

    Me: Exactly. I bet you chose that name for that purpose.

    Bob: It does have a lot to do with it.

    Me: I guess you know why we’re here.

    Jamie: What? I don’t know what he’s saying!

    Bob: Why I ought.

    Me: Yeah, that’s what they said in his day. Okay, the first question I’d like to ask you is what do you think your spiritual mission was during your life as Bob Hope?

    Jamie: He kind of puckers out his lips. I forgot how cute he was.

    Bob: Yeah, like all my cartoon characters.

    Jamie and I giggle.

    Jamie: Okay, he’s going to be funny.

    Bob: It’s a good thing you told me throughout my life, because I don’t know what I would have said if I had to break my life down into parts. My spiritual lesson, personally—I’m just looking at my life.

    Me: No, you’re spiritual mission.

    Jamie: Oh, he’s jabbing you with the fact that mission and purpose are different.

    Me: Oh okay. That’s fine. Roll with it, then.

    Bob: For me it had to be—

    Jamie (to Bob): Well, say it however way you want.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Erik): Erik, quit.

    Me: What’s Erik doing now?

    Jamie: They’re laughing—laughing and talking about how he should word this and they go off on a funny tangent. Like just then they talk about golf; they talk about being on stage for the army. I don’t what that’s called.  Performed for them while they’re abroad or something.

    Bob: Honesty.

    Jamie (to Bob): See? That’s all you had to do.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Bob and Erik): Oh you guys! I’m going to have to separate you. That’s it. Erik, go in the other room for this one. (pause) No, just go. You can hang out with him al you want later. (pause) Please?

    I laugh.

    Erik: I promise I’ll be good.

    Jamie: I don’t care. Just go sit on the couch.

    Erik reluctantly slinks over to the couch and sits.

    Jamie (surprised): Ha ha! I win! I win! Oh my god, I won!

    Me: Wow, he actually obeyed!

    Jamie: He did. Face to face with Bob who is not so tall.

    Me: Oh, really? What does he look like? What age is he?

    Jamie: I looked at him and he goes, “forty-two.”

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie (laughing): Okay!

    Jamie (to Bob): Did you really? You lived to be 100?

    Me: Whoa! That’s awesome! Good for you, Bob!

    Jamie: Congratulations!

    Bob: I had to see the millennium. I wanted to make sure spaceships weren’t coming.

    Jamie: Okay, he’s here and focused. Now, let’s ask him questions.

    Me: All right. Spiritual mission.

    Bob: Honesty.

    Me: Okay, were you here to learn anything?

    Bob: Honesty.

    Me: Well that made it easy. Honestly?

    Bob: Honestly.

    Me: Okay. Were you here to teach anything? This is going to be a very short interview!

    Bob: Laughter.

    Me: Okay, and why were you here to teach laughter? Tell me about the value of laughter.

    Meanwhile, Jamie has been laughing hard since we’ve ben asking these questions.

    Jamie: He’s been answering these with such a sincere face, like if he goes wrong he’s going to be catapulted into the air or something. It’s the look on his face that makes you want to giggle.

    Me: I know exactly what you mean.

    Bob: If you were in school with me, you would have been in so much trouble, but I never got in trouble, because I knew how to turn on a dime and straighten up and play the role. The ones who suffered were the ones I encouraged to follow me into laughter who could not snap out of it.

    Me: Oh, I could see that in his comedy routines. You were too young to remember that Jamie.

    Bob: I was born with it. I was born with the gift of laughter. It was not that I saw the weakness in everything to turn into a smile—the weakness of economy and family life and relationships—it was more of why are we going to let the heavier set feelings (and he shows me image of a heavier set person) weigh us down? We can go through all of our choices in life while we laugh. That was my goal. It made me feel good; if it made me feel good then I was going to do it. From an early age I worked on it, and –

    (Long pause)

    Jamie (to Bob): What? Fighting? (to me) He fought. (to Bob) In a war? Were you in the war? He fought in a ring.

    Me: Oh, boxing.

    Jamie (to Bob): You didn’t box! (pause) You did? (pause) There’s no way!

    Me: Did that have some sort of purpose in your spiritual mission?

    Bob: Yes.

    Me: Can you expand on that?

    Bob (Pointing to Jamie): The little lady got lost.

    Jamie (giggling): Well, I just wanted to make sure that’s what you meant. Sorry.

    Bob: When I was boxing, I discovered really how people can channel anger and make it work against or for them.  I found that anger makes for a really weak person. They end up a lot of loopholes that you can jump through without being touched. You think about that one. I mean a lot more than what I just said.

    Me: It’d be a lot easier if you just came out and said it but okay.

    Bob: Now I wasn’t a very good boxer. It was when I was a kid. I was young. But it made me realize who I wanted to be and how I didn’t want to use the anger and aggression that I came across. It really propelled me to be funny.

    Me: Can you explain that connection better?

    Bob: Would you rather be punched in the face or have a good laugh?

    Me: Oh, I think I’d rather have a good laugh.

    Bob: Me too.

    Me: Okay. I got it. Do you think you accomplished all that you cam e here to do?

    Bob: I would like to think so! They kept me alive long enough!

    Me: I was going to say! You had 100 years to do it!

    We all get a good laugh out of that.

    Jamie: He’s really proud of living that long.

    Me: Yeah.

    Bob: And yes, I was most grateful for the 30 years I was extremely old because it made me go into childhood again. There were a lot of thing that I couldn’t do, you know, that I couldn’t do when I was young. So, it took another turn and it let me look at life in a different way.

    Me: Are you talking about your second childhood?

    Bob: Yes. There’s a reason they call it that. You can’t drive a car anymore. You go back to using crayons.

    Jamie (giggling): He says, “You don’t write that well?” He’s saying so many silly things!

    Me: I don’t write that well now! Okay, did you gain any insights when you crossed over?

    Jamie: The big bing? The big bing? The big bang? Thad’s what he calls his death.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Bob): Okay, now start over and tell me again. You can’t talk that quickly.

    Bob: After my death, I realized truly how lucky I was. When I met a person, I met a person. I didn’t meet a president. I didn’t meet a famous actor or actress. I met a person. I pride myself on that. What the person represented or what status they were in or how much control they had didn’t change how I was about to interact with them, and it allowed me to get to know people just for who they were. So, upon my death I realized I did this. It may not be a huge accomplishment other people are striving for or what they think I should have focused on but it was important enough for me. And in my death I realized that so much of how we choose to see the world when we’re alive is taught to us by someone else. We’re really not given that chance to say, “I don’t like the way you’re teaching me; I don’t like the way it looks; I’m going to change it.” And in my old age, it gave me time to change. Through my death, it gave me a bigger voice that this is what we need to be teaching.

    Me: Yes. You sure were your own man, Mr. Hope. You did what you wanted to do, and you saw people the way you wanted to see them: for who and what they really were.

    Bob: Yes, yes. Thank you.

    Me: Now, can you share a life that most influenced your life as Bob Hope?

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Is he giving you that deer in the headlights look again, Jamie?

    Jamie: No, he says, “Well, that has to be a life where I came back as Bing Crosby.”

    Me: For real?

    Jamie: No, he’s teasing.

    Me: Yeah, because they were contemporaries. I’m teasing too!

    Jamie: He was laughing under his breath with his mouth closed, and that’s what got me giggling.

    Bob: Yes we were contemporaries but that was the life that most influenced my life at them time.

    Jamie: Oh, so that’s why that was funny.

    Bob (to Jamie): You’re slow.

    Jamie: Oh yes. Thank you. Erik is talking from the couch explaining what he considers to be a past life.

    Me: Okay.

    Jamie: Oh, he’s talking about a life in Russia. He was a man, a dancer. HE did ballet and tap. He loved the tap but wasn’t a fan of the ballet, but he was better at the ballet than he was at the tap.

    Bob: It was such a pity. I didn’t live to and old age. I was about 27 with I passed, but I danced my little heart out. I had time to marry; I had time to have kids, but I was sent away from by family because I showed such talent. It was more for royal entertainment. Unfortunately, everything I did was under a watchful eye. I was very comfortable being watched, but I wasn’t’ very comfortable having my choices made for me. So, I knew I wanted to be in the limelight, but I also knew that I wanted it under my own terms it my way. I got it. I didn’t just get 27 years of it or 25 years of it. I got it times four.

    Jamie: Oh, he is so proud.

    Me: Aw! Now, do you have any messages for us, for humanity?

    Jamie breaks out in laughter.

    Me: On no. What’s going on?

    Jamie: He dropped down. He put one elbow on the wooden countertop and rested his chin on his hand, you know, and kind of settles his fingers over his mouth like, um—

    Me: Like the statue of The Thinker?

    Jamie: Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah! Just like the statue of The Thinker! He goes, “Oh, to have so much power.”

    I chuckle in response.

    Jamie: Aw, he’s giggling. (pause) He stood up. He has both of his hands down on the counter.

    Bob: I would like it to be on paper that the eyes lie.

    Jamie: Oh, oh. There’s two ways that he’s showing it. First it’s written eyes. E-Y-E-S. The eyes lie. The beneath it, um, oh gosh, then he has the letter I in quotation marks plural. The “I’s” I am this; I want that. I, I, I.

    Bob: The ego, and the ego is triggered because it doesn’t want to fail against what others are hoping to receive or to get or whatever. The I’s lie and the heart never does.

    Me: Ah! Because the ego is often built by others.

    Bob: Yes.

    Me: And is also built by fear.

    Bob: Yes.

    Me: Okay. Interesting. All right. Erik, do you have any questions for Mr. Hope before you’re banished from the couch?

    Erik: Yeah. Why did you live so long?

    Bob: Because I had the best remedy on Earth: laughter.

    Me: That’s right. And you have to keep spreading it around, huh?

    Bob: It heals everything and dammit wouldn’t you know I kept healing!

    Me: You kept healing yourself!

    Jamie: He keeps doing these, “I’m so old, dat, da, dat, da, dat…” like these little one liner jokes.

    Me (giggling): I know exactly what you mean. Oh, I forgot to ask you a question. Are you reincarnated now?

    Bob: No, no. No thank you.

    Me: Well, I don’t blame you.

    Bob: There’s too much going on.

    Me: God, tell me about it. Well, thank you, Mr. Hope. It’s been an honor having you here.

    Jamie: He’s saying thank you but the way he’s blowing his kisses, it’s not the traditional way.  Um, I don’t know how to explain it. It’s like he crumples his hand up like a soft fist and kisses his thumb and then extends his hand out like he’s throwing it at you. He’s waving goodbye saying thank you.

    Me: Thank you, Mr. Hope. Bye.

    Jamie (waving dismissively to Erik): Go, Erik.

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to Bob): Just please, anytime. Yes. (to me) Bob says he’d like to come back and I said anytime. He’s doing a little foot routine. I guess it’s tap. I don’t know.

    Me: I can’t imagine it in my head.

    Jamie: Erik’s poking fun, and still he’s doing these one liner jokes.

    Me: He was so funny.

    Young Bob Hope

    Young Bob Hope

  • May9th

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    I’ve been thinking a lot about you mothers out there as our special day approaches, particularly those of you who have lost children. I, for one, will miss Erik coming to the side of my bed with his brother and sisters early in the morning with a tray sporting breakfast, usually a hot dog without the bun, a piece of dry toast and a cup of coffee. It sure was a challenge for me to swallow it down. Thank god for the coffee, my hero of that moment, which allowed me to wash it down. I cherish those lovely memories, but I also know that I’m always creating more every single day with Erik. That’s what I hope you mothers do as well. Talk to your child. Love him or her. Continue that relationship. It doesn’t have to end just because they’ve shed their body. That said, I wish you all a happy Mother’s Day and hope your child comes to visit you, without a nasty hotdog on a tray. 

    I remember the day John Candy died like it was yesterday. He and Chris Farley were such a big part of our family that we quote their movie lines all the time. As you’ll see in this interview, his personality is the same. Gotta love him. 

    Me: Erik is there anyone you’d like to bring in today? I was thinking John Candy would be fun. Or we could interview Ray Charles, Notorious B.I.G. or you can pick anyone you want.

    Jamie (giggling): He’s gone.

    As we wait, Jamie and I discuss some computer and phone problems I was havin,g which caused me to be a few minutes late for the call.

    Jamie: Hi.

    Me: Who do we have?

    Jamie (whispering): I always feel bad when I don’t recognize them.

    Me (also whispering): I know. Me too. Why are we whispering? They can read our minds, you know.

    Jamie: I know! It’s so crazy that I do that. I guess it’s a habit. It’s John Candy.

    Me: John Candy! Oh, this ought to be fun!

    Jamie: He’s a bit hefty?

    Me: Yeah.

    Jamie: Yeah, okay.

    Me: Hey, Mr. Candy.

    John: Hello!

    Me: Is that your real last name?

    John: Signed on my birth certificate.

    Me: Okay. Do you know why you’re here?

    John: Am I here for a good beating and bludgeoning?

    Jamie laughs.

    Me: Well, we can do that afterwards if you want.

    John: Oh, please. It feels so good.

    Jamie (giggling): Oh, gosh.

    Me: Did Erik give you the—

    John: The lowdown, yes.

    Me: Good, good. So, the first question we’d like to ask is this: What was your spiritual mission here on the earthly plane as John Candy?

    (Pause)

    Jamie (to John): Don’t even. (Pause) Yes, answer it for real, not like it’s a movie audition. Erik and him actually get along very well together. They’re acting like they’ve already met before.

    Me (to Erik and John): Have ya’ll met before?

    Jamie: Yes, they say they have, so they’re teasing off that.

    John: I was raised Catholic, and I believe it was my spiritual mission to get far away from being Catholic.

    Me: Is that for real?

    John: Yes, yes! That’s for real!

    Me: Oh, okay.

    John: That’s what I needed to do.

    Jamie: He’s doing some funny skit. It looks like he’s wearing a bishop’s hat; you know those tall white ones like what the pope wears.

    Me: Yes.

    Jamie: So, Roman Catholic. He’s marching in a circle. Erik’s laughing. He’s mumbling something. Um. (Long pause). Oh, let’s not do that, guys. Stop it.

    Me: What are ya’ll up to?

    Jamie (to Erik and John): That’s only going to get everybody in trouble.

    (Pause)

    Jamie: It’s like lowbrow, dirty humor with Catholic, um (to Erik and John sternly) No, don’t!

    Me: Okay, boys. No, we won’t do that. I kind of think I know.

    Jamie (sarcastically to both of them): Yeah, you going there? Yeah, go there. It’s really awful, and that’s where your mind should go and that’s what their teasing us about. Erik, it’s funny, but it’s not going to be funny in print!

    Me: No, it’s not!

    Jamie: He does this thing where he can dress up and then just kind of like jerk the front of his jacket, and it’s gone, and he’s dressed plain again.

    Me: Oh, that’s cool. Quick-change artist, is he?

    Jamie: You can tell he’s done this thing before.

    John: Yeah, I’ve talked to several mediums before.

    Me: Oh, okay. So, baaaack to you’re spiritual mission. Let’s try to stay on track, people.

    John: For real it was to get far away from the beliefs I was raised with as a boy.

    Me: And you wanted to go far away from those beliefs to…

    John: I didn’t really know where I wanted to go, but where I ended up was finding faith really needed to be in the humor of day-to-day life, not in some spirit ghost waiting out in some heavenly cloud.

    Me: Yeah because that certainly lacks a lot of humor there, huh?

    John: Yes.

    Me: Okay. Were you here to learn anything?

    John: This is suggesting that I did learn something when I was alive.

    Jamie giggles.

    Me: Well, were you? It doesn’t mean you’re not going to have to take summer school, you know.

    Jamie (laughing): He thought that was good.

    John: I never felt that God handmade me to be on Earth to achieve something in His honor or my beliefs or my needs, but when I was on Earth, if I had to overlook the extent of my life, what I had to learn was really not to get lost. That was the hardest lesson—not to get lost in my family, not to get lost in my career, not to get lost in being famous, not to get lost in doing drugs and the nightlife. I needed to learn how to stay grounded.

    Jamie: He really associates it to “Do not get lost.”

    Me: That’s a hard goal to accomplish as a celebrity, isn’t it?

    John: Very difficult to do, especially not—I give a lot of credit to the celebrities all over the world, but when you’re seen as the funny celebrity, people think you have it better, but not just being the funny, but the fat celebrity—the funny fat celebrity.

    Me (sadly): Yeah.

    Jamie: He’s shaking his head and smiling.

    John: You get it. Much more difficult. Much more difficult.

    Me: Okay. I understand. (Pause) Were you here to teach anything, John?

    Jamie: He puts his hands in his, um, he has an over-jacket. No tie or anything. He’s just kind of casual. He puts his hands in his coat pockets.

    John: I would like to believe that I did teach people how to laugh, but not at themselves, with themselves.

    Me: Ah!

    John: There’s a healthy laughter, and then there’s a sick laughter—a malicious one. I hope to god I taught people how to laugh in a healthy way.

    Jamie: He teases about being, you know, getting far from the Catholic viewpoint, but a lot of what he says is based on, you know, how people say, “God bless them,” “I hope to God.” He still has that kind of language. I just thought that was interesting.

    Me: It is. So John, do you think you accomplished what you were here to learn and teach?

    (Pause)

    Jamie: He immediately laughs. He has a really loud voice, by the way.

    John: I hope I did because God called my number one night when I was sleeping and said, “That’s it!” You know, like jerking a fish out of water. Just come on out of there!

    Jamie and I laugh.

    John: So I like to think, yes. I have no need or desire to go back to repeat anything that I tried to do in this life that I just had. So, I guess that’s a sign of completion.

    Jamie: Nice!

    Me: Good! Now, let me get back to the fact that you said that you’ve been to a lot of mediums after you crossed over. Tell me more about that.

    John: Oh, people were calling on me.

    Me: Really?

    John: How fantastic! I thought it was quiet after you died! I thought you got assigned that one cloud and that one harp that you have to learn how to play but no, I was overwhelmed by the amount of attention and love and affection that was coming, not just from my family but from many, many, many more people. Well, I think I still have a calling, so I went for it.

    Me: Why not? You still have fans that won’t give you a moment’s peace, John.

    John: That’s true.

    Me: After you crossed over, did you gain any insights?

    John: The first I knew it—

    Jamie: I should repeat kind of how he says it because it’s funny, you know that, I knew it!

    We laugh.

    Jamie: He does get loud though.

    John: When I died, again, it was like this jerk that happens right out of your body, and the news wasn’t delivered soft and gentle like in some good children’s book. It was like, “Hell, Mr. Candy. You are now dead.”

    Me: Oh my god.

    Jamie (giggling): He’s laughing, but his face is serious. It’s like, “No, seriously.”

    John: It was like, “Greetings. Here you are.” I knew I wasn’t all that healthy, but I didn’t know death was knocking on my door. I didn’t have the premonition. I didn’t have the sense of knowing. So, okay. I accepted what was told to me; I was happy I wasn’t in Hell. I was happy the devil wasn’t giving me the news!

    Jamie and I laugh hard.

    John: And my first aha moment was God is not the white guy with the beard on the throne, and I didn’t have to kiss anybody’s feet to end up where I was, so I must have done something right.

    Erik: Well, what did God look like for you?

    John: God was just like another person. He wasn’t taller than me or greater than me, but he was a male figure and he was Caucasian. And I had this sensation that I had come to the right place at the right time, and it didn’t make me have any kind of regrets. You know the crazy part about it is that you get so flubbed up in life when you miss your lines. Even in my type of career, when you miss your lines you feel like you need a redo. I never once felt like I needed a redo, and I never had to say goodbye to anyone. That was a neat feeling.

    Me: Very cool. Now, do you have a life that you’d like to share that you think most influenced your life as John Candy?

    John: Yes, of course I do.

    Me: Well, tell me, tell me.

    Jamie: It looks as if they had agreed before that Erik tells John when he’s rambling.

    Me: Oh!

    Jamie: So every now and then Erik will jump in and say, “You’re doing it.”

    Me: Okay, good, because I noticed that John can tend to be all over the map.

    Jamie: Yeah. I just thought I’d let you know. They are talking a lot to each other, and they seem every friendly together.

    Me: Okay.

    John: It’s wonderful to have gained all of this knowledge about myself and about the type of lives that I’ve led and a better understanding of why I’ve become who I have become. I’m very fond of this one life where I was an Italian man who worked in a restaurant. I was a chef. I was everything in the kitchen. You know, it’s not like it was fancy like I had like different people making different courses. I actually did everything.

    Me: Wow. That’s tough.

    Jamie: He’s showing me that he was a larger man. Solid looking.

    John: I grew up in a restaurant. This was back in the dirty days. The 1800s. Before clean water, boiling items, you know, the dirty days.

    Me: Yeah. Not a good time to be a restaurateur.

    John: Before modern appliances. But I had such a passion for food. I married a wonderful woman; I had wonderful children, and even though I found people to be so intriguing, I never wanted to leave my kitchen. It was my only place of control. I loved the idea of being in control of what was going on and what was happening around me, and I loved the idea of what I produced, what I created, I could also experience. I know we’re talking about how did this life kind of give life to the one I just experienced. The way that I link the two is that the joy that I had in the kitchen is that same joy I found in my acting career except I wasn’t confined to a small room anymore. I had the world as a stage, so it was on a much grander scale and got me to experience other people more, experience relationships, become involved with teens and humanity. I think that just being locked down to something so small made me have the drive to be something very large. I still wanted to maintain that passion.

    Me: Yes, you were larger than life, John.

    Erik: Dude, I guess you kept your love for food.

    John laughs.

    Me: Erik! And there’s nothing wrong with that. Were you a good cook in this life, John?

    Jamie: That’s so crazy that you asked that because he was saying that he was an excellent cook in this life.

    John: Yes, and the last thing I had was Italian food.

    Jamie: I wonder if you could, I mean, that’d be an odd thing to research.

    Me: Well, it’s coming out of the mouth of John Candy so of course it’s true.

    Jamie (to John): Interesting that you’d remember that.

    Me: So, do you have any messages for humanity, John?

    John (hiking up his pants a bit): Whooooaaa!! That’s a tall order for a little lady, but I guess since you’re Texan, you’re allowed to ask.

    Me: Exactly!

    Jamie belly laughs.

    John: Just taking from the life I experienced now, do not allow yourself to get lost.

    Me: Mm. How do you do that?

    John: There are many paths to take, but if you’re not taking the one that’s inside of you, then you’re lost.

    Me: And how do you determine that? I mean, that’s easier said that done, John!

    John: Haven’t you ever closed your eyes and asked yourself if you like where you are?

    Me: Yes.

    John: That’s how you stay on that inner path.

    Me: Okay. And have you ever done that?

    John: I did it every day—no, that would be a lie.

    Me: Oh no! Busted, John!

    John: But yes. I did it periodically, but a lot of times I was so off path I couldn’t even feel what was inside of me. That’s when I had to ask for help.

    Me: Oh, good. That’s good. What about you, Erik? Do you have any questions for Mr. Candy?

    Erik: Nope, we’ll be doing that later.

    Me: All right. Well, thanks, Mr. Candy. It’s been a delight. I’m one of your biggest fans. My entire family mourned your passing.

    John: Thanks for that, but just for the record, you’re not my biggest fan?

    Me: What? Well who is, then?

    John: Whaddya weigh, like 80 pounds?

    This makes me crack up, of course. Hm. I guess he’s into vanity sizing.

    Me: Oh, John. Flattery will get you everywhere.

    John: Thank you. I’ll keep it up.

    Me: Okay, Goodbye, then.

    John: Ciao, Bella!

    Jamie (to Erik): Don’t. Erik! He’s singing the Ghostbuster’s theme music, laughing. He was in the Ghostbuster’s Movie, wasn’t he? The first one?

    Me: God, I don’t know. I just said I was his biggest fan, and I don’t even remember that!

    Jamie (laughing): Oh no!

    Me (whispering): Ssshhh. Don’t say anything.

    Jamie (whispering back): You’re lucky he’d not in the room.

    Me (whispering): I know. He probably hears me anyway.

    Jamie: Somewhere he’s laughing really hard. I hear him.

    Me (horrified): Oh no! Damn!

    Watch this hilarious skit of John’s: Roy’s Food Repair



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