If we can manifest everything, I can’t wait to do my clothes. I’d take couture to the next level, punk to the next level, everyday I’d be a different kind of clothes hound !!!!!

Interesting post. I have seen Wayne moving very fast. The weirdest experience I had was at work. I was working next to a distant relative of mine. We were talking about the afterlife. I told her sometimes I can see spirits and talk to them. She was telling me that she loved her Grandma so much and her Grandma had made contact with her after she died. Just then I saw her Grandma, she came towards me really fast. Almost like she was running or just floating towards us. I moved out of her way so she wouldn’t run into me. Then she run through my computer. I just said WoW and we both laughed. When I see spirits I see them as solid as we are.
I have often wondered how they see us. I heard some where that they see earth as being dense and gray. I asked Wayne how he sees us and earth he told me he can see what we see. So Erik did confirm this. Cool

“Erik: When we communicate with humans, we move in their plane, their realm.”

Wow! This is so interesting. I have other non-human entities that speak as others, and see themselves as fundamentally different from humans. This sounds like one of them!

Is Erik a human spirit? Seriously, I know that you perceive him as one of the dead, but is he a disincarnated human or another, perhaps elemental being, that has acquired this persona? This is something that I wonder. Have you asked?

Deep, deep stuff. thanks!

Yes, I would like to read about that, but I have a difficult time navigating the volume of material here in your archive. Perhaps I can do a search? What I would like to have is his perspective on spiritual entities that are not human in origin, but elemental or from nature or even created beings, whether or not they incarnate in human bodies – including the variety of beings that exist known as “angels” and “nephilim” and “gods” or even plant “faeries.” Is it possible to perceive them as they are truly or do they “pretend” or “inhabit” this realm as humans (even though they are not). I don’t care much about other planets, since this part of the universe is pretty crowded already with human and non-human things…

Elisa it was over the bed if I recall correctly…

here are a few quotes from the book:

“For the most part, people do not know they will live their lives over. In the world in which time is a circle, every handshake, every kiss, every birth, every word, will be repeated precisely. So too every moment that two friends stop becoming friends, every time that a family is broken because of money, every vicious remark in an argument between spouses, every opportunity denied because of a superior’s jealousy, every promise not kept.”

“For in this world, time has three dimensions, like space. Just as an object may move in three perpendicular directions, corresponding to horizontal, vertical, and longitudinal, so an object may participate in three perpendicular futures. Each future moves in a different direction of time. Each future is real. In time, there are an infinity of worlds.”

“In this world, there are two times. There is mechanical time and there is body time. The first is as rigid and metallic as a massive pendulum of iron that swings back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. The second squirms and wriggles like a bluefish in a bay. The second makes up its mind as it goes along.”

“Many are convinced that mechanical time does not exist. They wear watches on their wrists, but only as ornaments or as courtesies to those who would give timepieces as gifts. They do not keep clocks in their houses. Instead, they listen to their heartbeats. They feel the rhythms of their moods and desires. Such people eat when they are hungry, go to their jobs at the millinery or the chemist’s whenever they wake from their sleep, make love all hours of the day. Such people laugh at the thought of mechanical time. They know that time moves in fits and starts. They know that time struggles forward with a weight on its back when they are rushing an injured child to the hospital or bearing the gaze of a neighbor wronged. And they know too that time darts across the field of vision when they are eating well with friends or receiving praise or lying in the arms of a secret lover.

Then there are those who think their bodies don’t exist. They live by mechanical time. They rise at seven o’clock in the morning. They eat their lunch at noon and their supper at six. They arrive at their appointments on time, precisely by the clock. They make love between eight and ten at night. They work forty hours a week, read the Sunday paper on Sunday, play chess on Tuesday nights. When their stomach growls, they look at their watch to see if it is time to eat. When they begin to lose themselves in a concert, they look at the clock above the stage to see when it will be time to go home. They know that the body is not a thing of wild magic, but a collection of chemicals, tissues, and nerve impulses. Thoughts are no more than electrical surges in the brain. Sexual arousal is no more than a flow of chemicals to certain nerve endings. Sadness no more than a bit of acid transfixed in the cerebellum. In short, the body is a machine, subject to the same laws of electricity and mechanics as an electron or clock. As such, the body must be addressed in the language of physics. And if the body speaks, it is the speaking only of so many levers and forces. The body is a thing to be ordered, not obeyed.

Where the two times meet, desperation. Where the two times go their separate ways, contentment. For, miraculously, a barrister, a nurse, a baker can make a world in either time, but not in both times. Each time is true, but the truths are not the same.”

@ Yvonne. The nature of incarnation between Spirits of differing realities of origin is a fascinating topic. One of the best explanations of the realities the incarnate “see” vs the dis-incarnate is given by Seth in the book “Seth Speaks”. As one discusses such topics it is always important to set your definitions of the words one uses for otherwise confusing people with word associations based on culture and belief.

For example the terms Angel and God/s, and other Spiritual descriptors vary heavily from person to person to belief system to culture etc. Which directly translates to precieved realities.

For such a discussion regardless of depth it might be better to think about broad categories and concepts. Dimensional realities and their variations are not restricted to linear space time and observable distance, but rather individual and collective perception. For example, 2D realities within 3D realities, with in 4 or 5 D realities. All overlapping with the possibility of interaction based on will, thought and Spiritual evolution.

Now within each of these manifested realities which ultimately are self created by all entities as vehicles for experiencing life; Within each of these exist energy based and bio based and mineral based life forms and more! Both the dis-incarnate and incarnate of souls of all life forms can inhabit any of these life forms, depending on Spiritual evolution, experience and will. This crosses the entire range of multiverses.

Some of this criss cross- soul to life form swapping can and does occur on Earth as we currently precieve it. Our ability to interpret this depends on our Awareness, experience, perception, belief, and spiritual evolution. This awareness is often achieved through one of the spiritual clairs such as clairvoyance. But all this awareness of others “true or original nature” also depends on the “others” awareness and evolution. A lesser evolved entity would not know of their true nature, but might act out in a strange and possibly barbaric way that does not mesh with societies perceptions. Where as a highly evolved entity would remember it’s true nature or have been told their true nature and the knowledge and experience would supplement their own current incarnation. This is what happens when Angles decide to incarnate for example.

So the answer to you question is yes, yes-but,.
This meshes with what Erik has told me and Robert in the past. He is not dictating anything to me, but nods and smiles at me. Now as far as the question of entities “hiding” amongst us; that’s a whole other topic. That depends on perception and awareness with motive and intent of all involved thrown in.

So, Elisa does that mean Michelle was non-human? She looked different? And when I google “Lemuria” all I get is this other continent on earth that sank millions of years ago. doesn’t show up as a planet. Sirius does, however. And i wonder if we do past life regression if we can get to those past lives that were alien. ??? Nina p.s. this is so freaking COOL!