Channeling Erik

January31st

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Time for Dummies

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Me: If there’s no linear time in the afterlife, why would a spirit need to wait until a person who’s still living passes over in order to heal? Erik, you broached this question before. Theoretically, their spirits are also in the afterlife due to the simultaneous existence of past, present and future. The blog member who posed that question asks, “Do I have that wrong?”

Erik: No, that’s absolutely correct!

Jamie: He yelled.

Erik: But—

Jamie (to Erik): Use other words, Erik.

Jamie laughs.

Me: Ah oh.

Jamie: He’s not going to change it.

Erik: But because of the dumbness of being human, we cannot wrap our heads around these concepts. It’s easier to teach to the limitations so that it’s understood by the masses, and then when you get a little deeper like our wonderful friend here, then you comprehend that we divide our souls be it only live a human life. We feel we are an individual connected to the whole, but we can only have concept that we exist in one place at one time. This is how we’re trained. It’s the beauty of being human, because we do feel a bit of that individual touch, that separation from the whole level of emotions. But it’s so hard for us to identify that. If time is truly stacked, we’re here, we’re in Home, Heaven and also in all these other lives at one time, then we’re never truly away from anyone we’re interacting with. This just leads back to the topic—

Jamie (giggling): You’re so condescending right now with your tone of voice.

Me: Oh, no!

Jamie: Like you need a pipe and a big Magnum P.I. moustache right now!

I giggle, too.

Erik: Ahem. So, this leads back to the concept that we’re all part of a whole. We’re part of a whole. We’re never away. So, you don’t really have to “wait” because you’re already connected, but we use these terms so that the masses—when they read it—can understand. And a lot of times, through grief and lower emotions like anger and jealousy and sadness, separation, abandonment and all these things that we’re trying to heal through. If I were to try to deliver the message and say, “Yeah, well, your son, he’s not waiting for you. He’s going to go ahead and do the things that he needed to do. Um, you know, he’s already back in the mix of life.” It panics a person who’s going through a grief stage or an abandonment or separation stage. They need to know that there is some sense of order so that they can organize their emotions and reach a healing. And that’s why we use these words that screw up the definition of Time.

Jamie: That’s awesome, Erik!

Me: Yes, I like that!

Jamie: I like the idea that people do need a sense of order so that they can feel grounded and stable to kinda reach that goal or that place of healing.

Me: Yeah.

Jamie: That’s true. I’ve never sat and looked at it like that.

Me: The fact that there’s linear time here and no time there just makes it so difficult for humans, especially me, to wrap their brains around some of these questions, you know?

Erik: It does get in the way. What the hell.

Me: Yeah, so a spirit really doesn’t need to wait until a person who’s still living passes over in order to heal.

Erik: Correct.

Me: Okay. So, why did you say that before, then?

Erik: Because it’s what everybody understands, Mom!

Me: So, it’s what they need to hear? So, you lied so that they’d feel better?

Erik: Whatever! It’s not a fucking lie! You’re horrible!

I let out a big guffaw in agreement. All part of a mother’s job.

Me: Well, it’s true.

Erik: But, it’s not a lie.

Me: You placated them!

Erik: Yeah, so that they could understand. That’s like, you know, a child asking you, uh (muttering)—

Me: Get yourself out of this one, Erik!

Jamie: Yeah, yeah. I’m looking at him like, ‘Bring it on, Erik! What’s happening?’

Erik: That’s like a child asking why there are clouds in the sky, why the Earth turns, why is there day. You can give him the simple answer or you can just lay it out in quantum physics and scientific terms. The child’s not gonna comprehend it.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: So, the conversation would be wasted. Sometimes you just have to say it real plain and simple. They get that concept, and then when their mind opens up more, and they learn a little more, then you re-explain it in deeper terms,

Me: Okay. I get it.

Erik: You know, you spoon-feed. Spoon-feed people through their spiritual evolution.

Me: Okay. I got it. (I say as I suck my binkie.)

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  • Julie

    That’s very interesting and I suppose the dumbness of being human is preventing me from wrapping my head around it. If nothing is linear, why can we only talk to spirits when they aren’t incarnated? How do we know there aren’t portions of our spirits over there right now? It’s just confusing to me.

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

      I’ll ask!

      • Julie

        Haha, and deservedly so, I’m sure :)

        I have always had this idea that what we call “time” is a name that we slap onto an abstract concept so that we can measure it for material needs. I will never forget trying to explain that in a seventh-grade English class and everyone staring at me like I was crazy. So excited to hear what Erik has to say! My blushing younger self will be validated at last.

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

      Whoa! I’m going to ask him that! You just blew my mind!! I probably gave him a big spanking if I was there.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027593595 Steve Trask

      From what I’ve learned from other channeling sources, say your mom passed and then decided to reincarnate while you were still alive in this lifetime. That part of her personality is still there and recorded into HER higher self, and we can reach out to that personality (your mom) and still communicate with her via a medium, even though she is perhaps a brand new infant in India or what not. Each incarnation of the higher self adds to the whole of the higher self. So when you die, Julie, your personality as Julie is absorbed into your higher self along with all the other lives of that higher self. It’s very confusing, I must admit, but I think your personality is still recorded there and accessible regardless as to whether you come back again. Hard to wrap our minds around this, I agree.

    • Ash

      We can talk to spirits even when they are incarnate – in fact, any spirit who has ever been incarnate is incarnate right now, because there is no time. They may not be incarnate in the same time period in which you are, or they might be – either way, makes no difference. I’ve heard from other sources (Patrick) that it’s a little more difficult to talk with a spirit’s previous incarnation if they have on in your current time frame, but not impossible. You can even communicate with souls of other people who are alive right now along with you, and you often do during your dream states.

    • Patrick De Haan

      The Committee responds, Julie; “You can be limited from speaking to an incarnated spirit because both of you are there, on Earth and temporarily away from your true home. There is no dumbness of being human and there are no levels of intelligence in Heaven, and humans neither see themselves that way nor are seen as such.
      The relative inability to comprehend the linear time sequence of Earth life as a distortion of true existence is nothing dumb; it is only a choice you made. There are portion of your spirits everywhere you are, at many levels, always together. ‘Here’ and ‘there’ are human density perceptions of separation, only a true illusion, not reality.”

  • Lisa Potter

    Excellent! And Elisa, I always love your asides.

  • Linda2749

    So my ? is are we living dual lives on earth and or other worlds.

    • Angela

      That’s my question also. Maybe when I meet someone and feel a deep connection . It is me I am connecting too ?

      • Patrick De Haan

        It is likely someone you already know, at home in Heaven and you have crossed tracks now.

      • Alex

        Good Question for ERIK!!!

    • Ash

      And other dimensions, other realities. Could you (your higher self) also have another incarnation on another planet right now across the galaxy or on earth? Yes. Hell…. it could be your neighbor (and in the grand scheme of things, we ARE all one… higher self just breaks it down into different levels).

  • Lorraine (LP)

    wow! you just blew my mind with this question

  • Clau_Bueno

    This subject really blows my mind! Sometimes I try to imagine if I am “seeing” myself? I feel the separation of my better half, but are we already together out there? The limitations of our visions of what happens “down here” it is crazy… so small… :(

    • Ash

      Already together? You were never apart. Separation is an illusion. You put your finger in a pool of water. It’s still attached to your body. From your finger’s perspective, all it sees and feels is what is under the water, but from your perspective, you see everything including your finger. And you know it’s still there and it’s a part of you.

      • Clau_Bueno

        Tks, Ash! <3

      • Ceridwen777

        Ash, I love your finger/water metaphor…I’m always looking for new and better ways to explain stuff to my students – thanks! :)

  • bashar108

    We exist only now. There are no pasts or future. Only the present only NOW
    When we die we transition into a new ‘Now’ that feels like a big change.

    But actually the change was always happening only we never really cared to become conscious of it and use it to our advantage. We are all shifting through billions of parallel realities or billions of now moments, per second and at each shift we are at zero points of redefinition. We can start anew from each of these moments after accepting a big enough conceivable change in our consciousness that will visibly alter our perceived reality to a more advantageous position.

    Everyday when we sleep, we leave our body and astral project ourselves into the heaven realm where we meet with our passed on friends and relatives and when its the moment to wake up on earth, we come back to our body and feel a ‘jerk’ and wake up. Generally humans dont have the capability to remember all that happens in sleep travels.

    But we are also part of our own oversoul or a supersoul who is alike to God, can multi-locate (live multiple lives or have multiple now moments) and has infinite capabilities. We live in multiple dimensions and Oversoul is like the highest dimension of possibility or highest heaven , coming down in dimension scale and individualize a part of oversoul energy into each existence, one of that individuals is our human lives.

    • Alex

      Couldn’t of said it any more perfect!! :D

  • The Dragonfly’s Student

    I agree, Eva. I feel spiritually light years ahead of where I was before I started reading this blog just a handful of months ago. The amazing thing is I’m no longer blown away by his lessons. New information is simply absorbed into my brain (just like in Steve’s post above) and becomes a part of the truth that always was. Pretty cool!

  • Bagga

    As always, Erik’s teachings provoke thought, and laughter! It all is so beginning to become more clear. I feel as if I began a very complex jigsaw puzzle so long ago, had to leave it for awhile to gain new sight to ‘solve’ it. Now, the entire picture is beginning to seem so familiar. Today….the video in my dreams of walking down one street from my childhood, to have it meld with another treasured place in time makes complete logical sense. Now, if only I actually liked sleeping so I could spend more time in the next world!

  • Dusty

    There are more things between heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy. It’s a comfort to know we are infinite beings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tigg.gordon Tigg Gordon

    Okay, trying hard to get my head around this one. So let’s say I die (which I will) and I go to heaven/home but I’m there already because of the no time thing. So do I go and greet myself lol. I understand that we leave a part of our essence in the afterlife we couldn’t possibly bring all that energy here. So would I just meld with my other essence? grrrrrrr…………. having a hard time with this one and I know it’s like what Erik said I’m thinking with a human mind.

  • Christopher

    As usual, I loved the post! Oddly enough, the more I grow in spiritual awareness, the more I see the necessity in embracing the illusion for the purpose that it serves. I know it’s dichotomous (‘grow’ spiritually / embrace the illusion), but I think that’s part of the grand scheme. The most profound truths seem to defy our ‘linear logic’.

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

      “The most profound truths seem to defy our linear logic.” Me likey.

      • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

        Just remember the analogies he’s used: the one with the stack of books for instance. It’s what we focus our attention on. Right now, he are focusing on, say, the third book in the vertical stack so that’s the only one that seems real to us. But the other books have stories that are ongoing. When the story ends, we’re still the reader. It’s not like the character jumps out of the book and shakes hands with the reader. I think that’s the way it is, but I can’t be sure. Patrick?

  • PollyMax2010

    Yes, it’s very hard to wrap around in our human brains that we are already in spirit as our higher self and we send out sparks of ourselves………………………xoxo.

  • Alex

    This is so amazing Elisa.. I completely understand what Erik is saying.. 10 years ago I would of never understood where my little boy went.. Now it all makes sense so Erik understand that now people who are awakening now can understand these concepts and feel that much closer to our love ones.. Love you Both!!

  • Ash

    Patrick was able to channel the spirit of George Lippard, even though he was currently incarnate on this earth. I have a spirit guide who is currently with me, but is also living an incarnation in this time period (and I was even told that it was possible I may cross paths with his currrent incarnation through work at some point). It’s really no different than how we’re all living lives right now and yet “are all one”

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