Sorry about this lame and short intro, guys, but I have four hours of radio interviews today! I love working hard!
Me: Hi, Erik. How are you doing, sweetie?
Jamie: He says he’s fine. He’s enjoying, uh, he’s talking about having a lot of action over the last two to three weeks with homes—going to people’s homes and pranking them.
Me: Oh good!
Erik: That’s my number one request.
Me: Well beware everyone, because you’re probably next, people out there. Just nothing too creepy, Erik.
Erik: No sweat.
Me: Well Erik, we’re going to talk about the cheery topic of disease and disorders. We know there’s a physical reason for them, but let’s just start out with a general topic. Is there some reason for why we get body disorders or diseases or brain disorders and diseases?
Jamie laughs at what Erik just said.
Erik: The last time I checked, the brain was part of the body, Mom.
Me: Okay, okay. You’re a stickler for details, aren’t you?
Erik: Yeah, because when people are watching this, they’re going to say, “What rules are they playing by?”
Me: Okay, well carry on.
Erik: Well what do you mean, like mental disease versus physical disease?
Me: Well, I’m just wondering why we get anything at all. Why aren’t we just perfectly healthy without mental or physical issues? Is there something on a spiritual level, some reason, spiritually?
Erik: Well shit, it probably used to be that way, but we decided to be (air quotes) independent, on our own, and feed ourselves what we want to feed ourselves, do what we want to do. We chose to stop listening to our body’s needs, what was best for us, skimming off the surface.
Jamie (shaking her head like she’s puzzled): I don’t really know what he’s comparing it to. Skimming off the surface. Give us an example.
Erik: Like for example, candy isn’t good for you, but if you have one piece, you know, it’s not going to hurt ya, but if you have one piece on a regular basis then you’re not just skimming off the surface, you’re interfering with your diet, your nutritional values.
Me: No, I’m talking about spiritually, Erik.
Erik: Oh shit, Mom—
Jamie is laughing hard.
Me: What are these diseases trying to teach us? Are they trying to give us a signal in general?
Erik: Yes, in general it is—when you get a body and you come to Earth, you are in complete control over it. And we’re fucked up just enough to believe that we don’t have control, that some external source has the better answers, has better direction and we become sheep. The whole spiritual lesson on the care of our physical body, in general is that you are in control over your physical health, your destiny, your perceptions, your belief systems, everything yourself.
Jamie (blushing): I should practice cussing before come on these (videos) and then I won’t have to pause as much.
Me: I can just see you in the mirror cursing up a storm to get ready.
Like jumping jacks before the big game.
Jamie: Doing some solid words, right? But he’s going off about marketing and he said that he’s not just looking at this culture in the here and now.
Erik: I’m not looking through history and what we’re stepping into in the future, but the way that our companies have grown, the way that our governments have grown, we’ve divided the people into ones that follow and ones that lead. And for some reason, we’re extremely comfortable with that idea. But it’s not the true reality. Everyone is the leader in their own life, their own health, their own spiritual destinies, contracts, things of that nature. But there’s some kind of surrender that people just let go of, and when we’re presented with illnesses and diseases—
I thought those were the same thing, but…
Erik: —it’s giving us the option of learning who we are, to be still more, cuz I’m telling you one thing, Mom, I don’t care if it’s mental disease, if it’s a broken leg or some other injury or accident, disease, even a short one like the flu—
Jamie (laughing): He’s ranting how the flu can put you on your ass!
Me: That’s true. We all know that.
Erik: —anyone of any age and there you are on your ass on the couch. You have all this time to think about how miserable you are, and how you gotta take care of yourself and you gotta rest. These are lessons in disguise, but people don’t want to see that, right? They like to believe that when you’re healthy; it’s the good track. It’s the positive thing, it’s the best thing, and then when you have an illness or disease or an injury or an accident, something like that, it’s the negative; it’s the bad thing. There’s nothing in life that you want to avoid, because there’s no bad and there’s no good.
He’s referring to something he said elsewhere about anything, whether good or bad, right or wrong, can be a powerful lesson that helps you grow.
Erik: Walking this fine line of walking on the right path and doing the (air quotes) right damn thing is wasted fucking (Jamie winces here) energy. Just stop it. You gotta stay with yourself for who you are. You gotta stay in the now. You gotta let yourself be who you are. Now people can argue that fact in and of itself that if you are what you are, what if you’re a (air quotes” bad person, then you’re not doing the (air quotes) right thing. You should be making changes. You gotta pull back and say bullshit once again. Stop judging, people. All right. So then yes, we can agree that there are some things in life that aren’t attractive. Cancer’s not attractive, right? It’s a malfunction in the cells and, you know, one cell goes rogue and convinces a bunch of other cells to come join.
Jamie and I laugh.
Jamie: Sounds like a bad bar fight!
Erik: But, you’re right. This shows miscommunication within the body, and if this is what the person needed to manifest, then they succeeded. They did the right thing for themselves whether they consciously wanted to agree to it or not.
Cancer? The right thing? I hope he clarifies this but I have a feeling it’s the “Everything is a lesson” thing.
Erik: It’s presenting them with a life choice that will help them restructure their belief systems, restructure how they live their life so that they can have the one that’s best suited for them—not best for everyone in the whole fucking world, just best for them.
Again, Jamie winces. She sure hates his F bombs.
Jamie: He’s, it’s like a mumble, you know how you turn your head and you (she covers her mouth and mumbles). He does this and says, “Stop fucking judging people.” Lot of nasty words.
Jamie (to Erik): Are you on a soapbox today?
Erik: Where’s my fucking mic!
Jamie and I guffaw loudly.
Erik: I’m wearing it.
Jamie: He’s pretending that he has one.
Erik: You know—
Jamie (to Erik after listening a bit more): I don’t know who did that.
Jamie (to Erik shaking her head in disbelief): Nuh uh!
Jamie (to me): He was imitating, oh he was talking about President Obama. Who was the guy, he was a singer, had the mic and he was like, “Peace out” and he took the mic and just dropped it?
She holds her own mic up, then drops it into her other hand.
Me: I don’t know.
Jamie: And he just walks off the stage. He said President Obama imitated him. Anyway, off topic. Sorry.
Me: Whoa, where did we go with that one, Erik?
Jamie: That’s his, uh, end of the story, his badass moment. He took his mic, he got off his soapbox and he just (Jamie drops her own mic into her other hand again.) dropped it. That was awesome.
Me: So you must be ready to go on!