Channeling Erik

February2nd

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Welcome to the first in the weekend series of “The Best of Erik,” where I pull posts from the archives. Newbies who haven’t had time to go through the archives will enjoy these, and you veterans will also have fun with these refreshers. I’ll try to post them both Saturday and Sunday, but it’ll depend on how busy my editor keeps me and how crazy my life is. Let me know if there are any particular topics you want me to post.

Me: Okay, next question. Someone wants to know if gays go to heaven. I know they do, but they want to hear it from you, Baby. Also, many people want to know why some choose to be gay.

Erik (laughing): I think it’d be funny if you wrote, “Yes, gays go to heaven but heterosexuals don’t! They go to hell!!

Me: Oh my god, how funny! Yeah!

Erik: Up theirs! Sexual orientation—

Me: Oh, “up theirs” was probably not the appropriate choice or words, Erik.

Jamie and Erik laugh.

Me: Sorry. Go ahead.

Erik: Make sure you put down that sexual orientation has no bearing on spiritual beliefs.

Me: Of course not.

Erik: That’s like saying vegetarians don’t get to go to heaven because they’re not eating all the right foods!

Me: Uh huh.

Erik: And it’s also saying you believe in this one religion, but it doesn’t stop in heaven; it stops somewhere else.

Jamie laughs.

Erik: God is a non-judging god. God embraces all. In fact, if God—

Me: Because we ARE all God. I mean, there’s nothing separate from God, so—

Erik: That’s right! That goes back to the description of God being omnipresent and omni-being and—

Jamie: Omni-fish, what? Omni-fishing?

Me (joking): Omni-fishing. He fishes everywhere. Salt water, fresh water, he doesn’t care. Hell yeah! God’s a fisherman!

Jamie laughs.

Me: No, I know he means omniscient, but why do people choose to be gay? My gay friends seem to be more spiritual than most. They seem more highly evolved. I don’t know if it has to do with what they’ve had to go through, like their struggles or if it’s that they choose that life to teach unconditional love and acceptance.

Erik: Well, you can boil most of it down to two reasons. All the details I’ve already talked about before. One, is that they’re really made that way. They come in that way.

(If you do a search  on this site for “Gays”, you’ll find other entries in the blog)

Me: Okay. I’ll take another look at those posts. I think they were pretty early on in the blog.

(Pause)

Me: Okay, go on, Sweetie.

Erik: They come in with the attraction for their same sex. Some of them say it’s DNA made or chemically made in the body and, whatever—they come in that way. And then there are some that, when they’re here, they’re undecided. Then they learn what they like and they have to stand up for it. I’m talking on a soul level, not a biological level.

Me: Okay.

Erik: So it can be a learned behavior that fits their need. But you’re right, Mom! They have more of a sense of spirituality, because of the struggles they do go through.

Me: Yeah. (pause) I do think that some come in as such highly evolved beings, and they struggle with HIV and AIDS and discrimination and everything to teach others. Maybe?

Erik: I agree. Some make a sacrifice to teach the collective. You’re also gonna find more of a population of bisexuals. People aren’t as verbal about it, though.

Me: Um hmm.

Erik: But when you boil down the definition of living, it’s to LOVE ALL.

Me: Exactly. Wow, I get chills hearing that. It’s so true.

Erik: You’re gonna hear about more people “cross-dating,” and it’s not a fad. This will be the opening of people’s hearts and understanding—that you look for love; you don’t look for the wrapper.

Me: Oh my god, yeah. It’s like Brokeback Mountain was a real eye-opener for me, because I felt it portrayed the love between two souls—not between two guys—but between two loving souls. True love. And I think there’s a really wonderful message in that.

Erik: Agreed.

Me: So why do some people seem asexual?

(Pause)

Me: Is it because they come from a different place, or—

Erik (laughing): Or do they just draw up into themselves and their extremities die?!

Me (chuckling): Yeah! There we go!

Erik: That’s really how it looks, energetically!

Me: Really?

Erik: Most of that is abuse.

Me (sadly): Awwww Like Michael Jackson? He seemed so asexual to me, you know?

Erik: Yes. And often those who are asexual are labeled as gay or lesbian.

Me: Huh?

Erik: Yeah, cuz they don’t see the typical macho or the typical feminine.

Me: Yeah. So they just assume they’re gay or lesbian?

Erik: Exactly. But a lot of that is abuse, um, a history of abuse, and the self-loathing that results. It’s hard to love someone sexually or otherwise when you hate yourself.

Me: Aw, poor little M.J. My heart aches for what he’s been through.

 



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  • Nancy Antia

    Could you please tell me the meaning of cross -dating, Elisa? Thank you!

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

      I have no idea!!

    • Dusty

      I’m guessing he means dating either gender.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.wallace.9083 Mary Wallace

    I love that Erik! Gays go to heaven and straights go to hell! My friend Byron is gay and the nicest person I know.He really shines!

  • http://www.bigseance.com/ Patrick Keller

    As a spiritual person who happens to be gay, I really appreciate this one. I hadn’t seen it. Love it!

  • Linda2749

    why do some prefer self sexual satisfaction over sharing touch with a partner who they chose to share there life with. Why not be a lone rather then deprive someone you love of the sex and affection they require.

  • shari@thefurryangels

    I just wondered being new ? How many gays are there in the CE family ?

    I am a 52 lesbian just broke up with my gf several months ago. Doing much healing with my animals & gardens. I don’t feel need for a relationship right away, want to fill myself with beautiful new & fresh things. Transforming backyard tnto a sancutuary.

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

      I don’t know, but I think there are a lot. Gays and others who have had a life of obstacles are often drawn to the spiritual. I think.

  • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

    Are you kidding? It’s a southern thing, Leon! It’s like y’all, youse, etc. Get your research done before you lash out to a grieving mother. I’m going to email you.

  • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus, MD

    I can’t help but publicize the email I sent you so that all the CE family can see. You caught me on one of my “Missing Erik” days, but you deserve what I have to say to you nonetheless. You’re obviously NOT from the south because this is how we address nearly everyone we’re close to–not only our children, but our adult sibs, spouses, other family members and friends. So, before you lash out at a mother who’s son put a 45 caliber hollowpoint through his brain, do your research. We have manners here in Texas. Shame on you.

  • Prettybrown

    What kind of person comments on a blog of a grieving mother and insults what she calls her son? i call my daughter baby i am from georgia, please if you have nothing positive to say dont say it at all

  • cristina

    Hi Elisa,

    While I try to understand “This will be the opening of people’s hearts and understanding—that you look for love; you don’t look for the wrapper.” and “the love between two souls—not between two guys—but between two loving souls. True love.” in order to support gay marriage, I am asking: isn’t this a bit dangerous idea for the level of understanding people have now ? In the end, animals have souls too, children have souls too, parents have souls too: isn’t this “soul love” suppose to be NON-sexual? Otherwise I see people on this planet accepting zoophiles, paedophiles and incestuous relations the way they accepted gay marriage. Just google “incestuous relation” and you will be surprised how many people are involved in such acts.

    Can Erik give a more elaborate explanation on the subject, as I am a bit worried how things are turning with the new generations, explanation with focus on WHY such “true love” has to be sexual? Is the concept of “best friends” disappearing and is being replaced by gay and lesbians? Wouldn’t be nice to keep a bit of purity into our lives?

    Thank you very much for any possible explanations
    Cristina

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus

      Excellent question. I think he’s answered this before in the archives. but I’ll clarify. Search the blog for romantic love, I think.

  • http://ChannelingErik Anne

    The New Zealand Government has just passed a bill to legalise Gay Marriage,After all it is about LOVE…

    • http://www.channelingerik.com Elisa Medhus

      KUDOS to New Zealand!!

  • cristina

    yes, it is about love, but does it HAVE TO be about sexual love? We are humans, not animals to “love” whatever/whoever see in front of us.
    How many of those people are really gay and how many are “just experiencing” with same sex – that “experiencing” has honestly NOTHING to do with love, is just a sexual expression. We all know that forbidden things seem sweet, and I see so many from the new generation “experiencing” with the same sex, simply because the old generation frowns upon it. Are we turning into a planet of perverts ? What is next in “experiencing”: animals, children ? How can we make people aware about these things?

    I’m not even sure how many can understand what I’m trying to explain :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/tigg.gordon Tigg Gordon

    I’m totally shocked that you would take the energy to write a nasty comment like that. What a mother lovingly calls their child is wonderful. I feel sorry for you Leon, you must have lacked that kind of loving intimacy. My mother died when I was 3, I’d give anything to hear her call me baby :)