Channeling Erik

February15th

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Terrorism According to Erik

Posted in: 2011 Bloggies, 2012, After Death Communication, Afterlife, belief, Bereaved, Channeling, Communication from the dead, Consciousness, Contact with the dead, Crossing over, Death, Grief, Grieving, Grieving Children, Heaven, Human Experience, Jamie Butler, Jihadist, Life After Death, Life review, Love, Mental illness, Messages from the dead, Murder Suicide, Psychic medium, Religion, Spiritual enlightenment, Struggles, Suffering, Suicide, Suicide Bomber, Violent deaths

Channeling Transcript

Me: Okay, Erik. One last little question this time. About this whole terrorist thing. What the heck? What’s going to happen with all that? What can we do to solve the terrorist problem?

Erik: Well, one thing to do is get the Americans, uh, give everybody their rights back. The more you take away from the masses, the stronger a few in the governments become and the weaker everyone else is.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: The best way to handle terrorism is to create—

(Long pause as Jamie listens)

Jamie: Wow, that’s an interesting thought, Erik!

Erik: —to create groups—I guess you could consider them prayer groups—and give love and acceptance and peace, and wrap them in white light. Then watch them calm down, see them wanting peace, see them backing away. Or see them harming themselves and not being able to harm anyone else, so they’ll self-destruct.

Jamie: But the way Erik said it or showed it to me was like an energy/emotional war. You know, we send our love over—

(Pause)

Jamie (laughing): Like laser beams! Froooom, frooom, Frooom!

Me: The frickin’ laser!

Jamie: It actually destroys and harms and dismantles them.

Me: Good! Well, I mean, we’re not making anything better by being over there. I think that makes things worse, putting troops into their territory. I think that’s not good.

Erik: You’re right. Give everybody their rights back.

Me: Everybody in those countries or in our country too?

Erik: Our country too.

Me: You’re talking about the rights that the U.S. Government has taken away, right?

Erik: Yeah.

Me: Because I’m not sure how we could force or convince the leaders in countries like Iran to give their people back their rights.

Erik: No, that’s up to their citizens.

Me: So what kind of epiphany does a suicide bomber have, if any, after they get to the afterlife and figure out there are no—well, I take that back, maybe there are 72 virgins, I don’t know. Someone told me that the suicide bombers probably misunderstood, that really there were 72 VERSIONS of their mothers-in-law waiting for them.

Jamie (laughing): That’s pretty funny!

Erik: Um, that suicide bomber, what did they get out of it? Mom, for them it’s like a mission completion. That’s what they feel at first—like this satisfaction that they did what they were told to do and they finished it. So when they first cross over, they’re still on that mission. They’re still waiting for somebody to give them additional orders, to tell them what to do.

Me: Mmm.

Erik: Because that’s how they best worked while they were alive.

Me: Well, do they eventually realize that they’ve killed innocent beings?

Erik (Very somberly): Oh, yeah.

Me: So what do they do when they finally realize the absurdity and the tragedy of their actions?

Erik: Of course they’re all so independently different in the way they react, but most of them, when they realize, is full on repentance. Mom, it’s so sad to see that they chose a life to be so blinded. And they feel like they’ve been robbed.

Me: Wow.

Erik: But over here, we remind them that they played a role that the world needed to experience.

Me: Ah! So a lot of it is like a spiritual contract with the collective?

Erik: Yes.

Me: Okay.

Erik: A lot of the fear and destruction, we totally ask for it ourselves. People think it’s done by this one person, this one evil person. It’s not true. That one person comes into power, because so many people are looking for a villain.

Me: Like Hitler.

Erik: Yeah, like him. It wasn’t all his fault, Mom.

Me: Yeah, of course not. We help to create these villains and the conditions through which they’ll thrive as a collective, I guess in part because we want to experience different things as a collective. You know, there’s so much chaos now in the world, and it makes me feel like we’re on the brink of some sort of shift—a positive shift, hopefully.

Erik: Yeah, there are going to be a lot of positive shifts, but there’s also going to be a lot of—people who are wanting to leave out of pure fear.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: People will commit suicide just before 2012—

Me: Wow.

Erik: —because they just won’t be able to handle thinking that the earth might crumble and fall apart.

Me: Oh, my goodness. So, terrorists cross over, go through their life review, and think, “Well, I repent,” but also it was part of their spiritual contract, so how can you reconcile those two things?

Erik: They figure it out themselves. They repent, then they realize it was all a part of a bigger plan.

Me: Why do we, the collective, want to experience all this terrorist stuff? What’s the purpose?

Erik: Humans only know how to measure good if there’s bad in the world.

Me: Okay.

Erik: That’s something we really have to get over.

Me: Yeah, well, that’s why we’re here—for the duality—so we’ll understand things like love on a deeper level.

Erik: But most people can’t do the love and the good without finding some kind of hatred or deceit—and even—I find it so odd, Mom, the people who are really good at the love and enlightenment bit, then somebody will come up and completely consider them pussies for being so happy!

Me: I know!

Erik: Yeah, you know, like they have to “toughen up!”

Me: Yeah, I get that a lot. Been called a softie, a Pollyanna looking at everything and everyone through rose-colored glasses. You had the same thing happen to you, Erik, since people made fun of you for being so sweet and affectionate.

Erik: Yes, and that’s complete nonsense, Mom. WE have it right! That’s human enlightenment right there, being alive and enjoying the part about LOVE.

Me: Exactly! So the whole terrorist thing is to show us the duality between hatred and love, and maybe when we send them prayers of love and wrap them in white light, maybe that’s the thought and behavior their egregious acts were meant to elicit.

Erik: Yeah.

Me: Bring out the frickin laser!

Jamie and Erik laugh.

Me: Okay, Sweetie, thank you for a wonderful session Jamie and Erik. I’ll talk to you next month. Until then, I love you, Baby, as always.

Erik: Thanks, Mom. I love you too.

Me: Bye.

Jamie and Erik: Bye.

Frickin' Laser

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  • Juan

    Me: Because I’m not sure how we could force or convince the leaders in countries like Iran to give their people back their rights.

    Erik: No, that’s up to their citizens.(….it is EXACTLY what happened in Egypt, Egyptian people themselves change their destiny!!!…)

    Thanks

    juan

  • Yvonne

    Elisa,

    I am glad you posted this because there is a lot to chew on in there. I never like it when you foray into politics, because it is so particular and so “American” in its point of view, and so this-time-ly, instead of the wonderful universal vision that these channelling messages give us that apply all over the world, and also can apply to the many many lifetimes that you and I and Erik have experienced. More on that later, please? I did have a question about his perspective, however. I see “terrorism” as a kind of warfare, practiced by both sides – not just Muslims, as you suggest. But isn’t he a suicide himself? So he is drawing a distinction between a person who commits suicide as an act of violence against one’s own self AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, an act of taking the life of others. But both come from “a life of blindness” and error, as he says, right? So, from the point of view of the universe, are they both morally the same, especially if repentance and apology for both kinds of suicide comes in the afterlife? I hope I am being clear. As I said, there is a lot to chew on!
    Good luck with the bloggies. I hope you win! See you later, Y.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      @Yvonne: I agree that terrorism includes both sides. I’m sure our government is part of the equation. He doesn’t draw a distinction between his suicide and those of the terrorist. What I think he means is that, yes, they do repent (just as he did) but that there is really no one to repent to as the only judging we do comes from ourselves, and even then, when we realize the part we play in the destinies of others that are affected by our actions, the emotional angst is not there. It’s more of an objective consideration. This is especially true if the terrorist (whichever side) agreed, between lives, to play the part of villain so that the collective or individuals can learn a valuable lesson or experience something that might contribute to spiritual progress.

      After Erik killed himself, he was beset with remorse, but eventually, he discovered that it was his destiny. He had planned this exit between lives in order to do what we’re doing now. Of course he’s sad that those he left behind still grieve, but I’m sure he knew that would be the case when he designed his spiritual blueprint. Did you read the various entries on suicide?

      He has told me about suicides that were not a destiny thing (most are not) and those were remorseful for altering the life paths of others. One, for instance, was supposed to be a healer and now he knows that many of the patients he was supposed to help will suffer as a result of his actions. What I’m not sure about is how many suicide bombers have that as their destiny, as part of their spiritual blueprint, and how many do not. Still sick with the flu, so I might not make much sense!

  • Candis

    I love reading all of this – I guess that is my problem – all of this is what I WANT to hear and believe and I am so burned out by a lifetime of different people who have different beliefs insisting that their way is the ONLY way, if you know what I mean. I am reluctant to buy fully into anything because I have seen so many people use the belief stuff to justify what they do or have done, and to basically just stop thinking and learning beyond that point. (I do it too) And it’s not just in the spiritual realm – it exists in every realm – this buying into a certain mindset about ‘the way things really are’ and then not being able to get beyond that. It exists on so many levels too, and can turn some people into different kinds of monsters,imo.
    I really like the idea of prayer circles though, I can totally get into that. Maybe we can do that – like agree on a time to all reflect on and pray, concentrate about a certain situation or issue or something in order to increase the amount of positive light in that direction. Like when we were all sending Robert caring vibes and maybe that made a difference…only on a larger scale as well. Some people might think it is a useless activity, but I really think it could be very powerful – especially if what we are concerned with is for the benefit of something that is beyond our own immediate interests – like not selfish, if that is ever totally possible…and even if it’s not, then just the most positive intent that we are capable of. I think it could be especially be effective because we all – to a certain extent – reasonate of a like mind.

  • Be Free My Angel

    Prayers really do work !!!!

    Peace and Blessings ♥♥♥

  • Dina

    When I read this blog every morning, I feel like I’ve got love and light coming out of everywhere, and like I’m ready to share it with everyone I encounter throughout the day. And then when I’m trying to go somewhere, some genius will try to drag me across a street, and I’m back to my old evil self again. Maybe it’s a “practice makes perfect” kind of thing? lol

  • Stanley

    Hello,

    Every time I hear about a terrorist act, it makes me sick to my stomach. I remember the World Trade Center attack on September 11th. I turned on the TV that morning thinking I was just watching some Made-for-TV movie or something. It wasn’t till I went to switch over to watch one of my regular programs that I realized that it wasn’t some movie, that it was really happening.

    The ripples left by it run VERY deep. Even just seeing a program on TV about it, film from that day, I can empath the feelings from that event. The fear from family, friends and those in the buildings. I could feel the anger focused at the Muslim race. Just very powerful emotions tied to that event.

    But the truth is the terrorists didn’t just pick this way of life. Many are taken as children and taught to hate. Taught that this group or that group is bad and needs to be killed. They just don’t know anything else. I feel both upset that anyone, doesn’t matter what walk of life wouldn’t know it’s a horrible act to end someone’s life. I don’t even agree with the death sentince by the courts.

    I also feel sad for these kids that are being taught to hate and taught how to kill others. If sending them love and light helps in the least bit, I am willing to send all I can to help them choose not to harm others.

    I also feel for those afraid of the whole 2012 thing. When I first heard about it, it scared the crap out of me. especially after seeing the youtube.com video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZG2nyUXiY

    And when you have movies like “2012″, documentries about how people think a rouge planet, comet. Even a polar shift that will make all the plates on earth suddenly shift causing major earthquakes and title waves. Another I heard was that the sun was going to kick of a CME that will destroy earth.

    The truth is, no one has any idea what will or won’t happen. But it’s more than enough to scare so many people, including many kids. We are more than a year away from that date and yet I have heard about so many kids who have decided to end their lives so they won’t have to go through whatever will or won’t happen.

    Other said they have a method set up when they get pretty close to the date. It’s just so sad that these kids are so scared of not just dying, but dying a painful death. The fear I pick up on with these kids is horrible. They are terrified of just what is going to happen.

    Kids don’t need to be stressing out about this. Being a kid is hard enough without fearing a soon to come date as if they are on death row waiting to die. I just hope more parents will sit their kids down and explain to them that they will not be dying next year. That this too will pass without incident just like the Y2K scare. For sure a great blog entry Elisa.

    -Stanley

  • KateC

    Dina, I know! I have the same thing happen too- but I think you hit it spot on. It IS practice makes perfect. We just have to try again, you know?

    Elisa- TYVM for the Dr. Evil reference. My day is complete. :) :) :)

  • Paul Conklin

    Hi All,

    I believe that a divine being has arrived here from Paradise and he is named Monjoronson. He is here to break the energies of secrecy, greed and corruption with the energies of love and mercy. As we send these energies into Gaia or Urantia we will continue to see positive spiritual pressure flowing into our planet.

    I believe that this is the reason for the outcry in Egypt and now other Muslim countries are following suit. If we all pray for the energies of love, mercy and forgiveness to surround our planet we will begin to see a real change on the earth.

    Certain people can no longer hide behind the energies of secrecy and corruption. The jig is up, so to speak. Now everyone is becoming aware that we are free in the Eternal Father. He sends fragments of Himself to dwell in our minds and there is nothing that corrupt persons can do about it.

    That being said this same divine being has told us that we should also pray that these corrupt ones be shown mercy. He said that we should view them as erring children. The Father still loves them despite their waywardness and Monjoronson encouraged us to have mercy on them just the same as our Eternal Father does.

    Love,
    Paul

  • Danielle Notaro

    Juan, I think the difference with Iran and Egypt if I’m not mistaken is the military backed the people. So far. Maybe I’m wrong but I think Iranian military would whomp on the people. Also, Egypt is far from out of the woods.

  • Tracy Lamont

    I know what you mean about there being a ‘feeling’ in the air that change is coming. There is restlessness all over the world and nations are rising against dictatorships. All this is neccessary as the down-trodden strive to be seen and heard as equals. No more, no less.
    I was reading a magazine today and was browsing a feature on the lucious Johnny Depp. One of the things he said that got me thinking was this:
    ‘There are four questions of value in life…What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same….. Only Love…

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wow. I love Johnny Depp. Depp is Deep!

  • Denise

    Johnny does make it worth while…..

  • laura Vanden Bosch

    hello everyone,

    Love is what it is all about.

    I wanted to say a few things about terrorists. First I hope most of you will research the truth about 911. It was our own administration that did the attacks. There are literally millions of sites on the truth about 911. Use discernment when reading material.
    Also most wars are all about the stargates. Yes real ones. Like space travel. Also some websites about these. check it out.

    Thegalacticroundtable is a great website for truthful news. If you are watching any news besides local news. Know that you are being spoon feed exactly what they want you to know. It really is a waste of time.

    If you want to help america think about becoming a sovereign. Some information about that on Thegalacticroundtable. This takes us from civil law to common law and this is what we want. It’s the people running the country then. All for one and one for all. I am in the processing of doing it. It is a bit daunting. But I am going to do it. Know that the Obama’s did this in 1997. Which means they cannot practice law anymore.

    I am all for sending love lasers to anywhere needed. I send light and prayers all the time. But the more people the more power.

    We are galactic beings. As Erik has mentioned we are not the only ones. Duhhh.
    Peace and love laura

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Send those frickin love lasers!!!

  • Thomas

    “…You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads!” – Dr. Evil

    A question since suicide is touched upon:
    Most suicides are people experiencing mental problems. Has Erik spoken about what happens to people suffering from such problems or depression when they cross over? Are they met with ‘understanding’ for why they made the choice and offered healing or is something else going on?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      @Thomas: Oh, of course, as are those with terminal diseases who suffer. But remember, there is no judgment, no judge and jury so to speak. Those who have suffered a great deal for whatever reason: violent accidents, murders, etc., go to a place where their energy is healed by special spiritual healers, but it’s not at all like the Bible says. No Hell, no Purgatory. Check the posts from these dates: 11/28/10, 8/12/10, 7/9/10, 5/26/10, 3/31/10. Hope that helps.

  • Jane

    This was a great post. I love the groups getting together to send love and light. I think this is very important to be doing this, for as many people as possible to be doing this, sending this energy all over the world. Thank you Erik.

    As for the world situation, I can’t recommend the books “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” and “A Game as Old as Empire” enough. The second book gives proof and validation of the account in the first book. Here is a key fact that sheds some light: “Third World countries pay more than $375 billion a year in debt service, twenty times the amount of foreign aid they receive.” So when we say we give tons of money in aid, it is NOTHING compared to the amount of money we are being paid in interest by poor countries we have essentially “loan sharked” money to. It enriches US companies and the leaders of those countries but impoverishes the people of those countries. (the debt payments come out of social spending for schools, water, roads, etc.) ” Instead, governing elites amass obscene fortunes while the poor shoulder the burden of paying off the debts.”

    Other countries know these things. We don’t. I told a Bosnian friend about this stuff like a revelation when i first learned it and he was like “yeah everyone knows that’s how US foreign policy works.”

    Of course this doesn’t make terrorist violence ok. I am as anti-brutality as possible. (self-defense you know that’s a different topic but brutality should never be part of self-defense in my opinion.) But a new age of human rights, as Erik seems to be alluding to, would ease a lot of the hatred and pre-empt a lot of the exploitation going on in this and other countries.

    Totally, absolutely in support of meditating and Reiki and whatever possible for love and light for the world as well as a positive shift upward to a higher more loving and affirming vibration.

    Here is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
    (yes the UN is not without its own corruption but they do have real people who actually work on peace there as evidenced by this document)
    http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

    Here are the rights of children under the Convention on the Rights of the Child:
    http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_30177.html

    Love and light and peace and prayers and action for a new and better world for all of us.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I read somewhere that a bunch of people remotely (and anonymously) sent prayers to increase the T cell counts of one large group of AIDS patients and sent non-prayer messages to another group of AIDS patients. The group that received the prayers showed a huge improvement in T cell counts and the other group–nada.

  • Thomas

    I will, I think I’ve read a couple of them – thank you :)

    No, I don’t believe in the traditional Hell, the punishing God etc. either. It makes very little sense that someone going through a very painful lifetime (which mental diseases often cause) would be punished afterwards as well, no matter the way they eventually leave this world.

  • Skoshi

    The guidance I’m getting is that the Shift that will take place before 2012, during 2012, or a few years after 2012 will be in spiritual consciousness, not a shift in the Earth’s core that will cause us all to go crazy.

    I appreciate Erik’s advice that we should all send “Love like a Laser”. That confirms for me the guidance I’ve been getting to send Reiki to peacemakers asking that they have the energy and wisdom to make peace and that those who wish to do harm will have a loss of energy to carry out their plans. I’ve started working on Iraq and the entire Middle East. Please join me in that. Erik isn’t being philosophical. We CAN and DO make a difference. Some day we can look back on this and remember how we helped.

    I’m SO annoyed. My other computer crashed this afternoon. It just suddenly went black and shut off. There was a horrible smell like an electrical fire that filled the room. When I turned the computer back on, it said there was no operating system. SIGH. I think it overheated. It’s now only good for a paperweight. What gets me is I had a document file (not backed up) with quotes from Erik I especially appreciated and re-read from time to time when I was in a spiritual funk. When I look back to try to find things I was especially interested in, there’s so much information here that I can never find it. : (

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      @Skoshi: I’m so sorry about your computer woes. I have a love/hate relationship with them myself. Would you like me to send you the Word doc with all of the posts? If you get a new computer, please make it a Mac. I never have problems with mine. No virus problems, etc.

      Erik talked more about 2012 last week. He said it’s already begun, probably over the last several years. We’ll all b fine. More later!

  • Skoshi

    It’s important to remember that terrorism isn’t something that started on 9/11. What the Irish did to one another and to the British, that’s “terrorism” too. They’d shoot at unarmed men, women, and children who were in cemetaries to do funerals, for goodness sakes. Whoever isn’t in power and isn’t using the authority of government to carry out their efforts, that’s a close definition of a terrorist. They’re using limited resources and trying to make an impact by harming larger society to get society to influence established government. So the British would say that what the New World’s colonial subjects did (not wearing uniforms; dressing in brown and skins and hiding behind trees and striking out from there, etc.), was terrorism. The colonialists didn’t “fight fair” by the rules of war. Those we call “Freedom Fighters” of the Revolutionary War, “Loyalists” who fled to Canada to escape violence from Freedom Fighters would have called “terrorists.” Whoever wins gets to write history. Erik would probably say “any method that isn’t based on love, is caused by delusional thinking”.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Totally agree, Skoshi!

  • Lena

    Just wanted to point out that we’re (CE fam) a group sending out light and love. :)

  • NewBeliever

    Hi Skoshi, having grown up in the middle of the Irish war was to put it mildy – disturbing and hopeless! We presently have peace and for that I am thankful but before you use the Irish as an example please get your facts straight..yes the Irish used brutality and force and alot of scare tactics but so too did the British..the UDF were equally as brutal and as much to blame….plus we were fighting for our land not our God…a little different I think…I do not approve of violence as a way to solve problems – the freedom of the 26 counties of the Republic of Ireland were achieved through peaceful demonstrations and for that I feel very proud but please be careful when you use the Irish as an ‘example’ of terrorism, every war is unfair but every war has 2 sides to the story neither side being completely innocent either….just saying….

  • LaurenF

    I’m all for it, sending out “lasers” of love, acceptance and peace, and wrapping them in white light. I wonder if it would have the same effects if we did it at different times, or better effects as a whole. hmmm, I’ll send my “lasers” out both ways just in case. :)

  • joanne (Irl)

    This is a very interesting post Elisa, because it puts the notion of “love ” directly up to us, in our faces. And it is so hard to let go of our fears and hurt, some of it generational , that the other sides are the baddies, when in actual fact, they too hold the same feeling and fears and mistrust of us as we do of them. So I’m all for sending direct rays of love and light to those I do not know, may never know, but who are as responsible for my peace as I am theirs. Responsible , it would seem, if I understand Erik by my very thoughts, not necessarily my actions.So it’s lasers all the way for me.
    If I may also say that I respect bot your points of view Skoshi and NewBeliever, but without wanting to get into further discussion, looking back with hurt is almost as destructive as the violent acts themselves, and it allows us to become too selective in what we choose to believe as right or wrong. Newbeliever, in my opinion, the peace of the 26 counties was not achieved through peaceful demonstration alone as there was the 1916 Rising and all that that entailed, Michael Collins murdered for compromise. And skoshi, yes, you had Irish people shooting at Irish people in cemetries, the school run, delivering milk, …so destructive and sad. So when Erik suggests there’s a better way to deal with our fears and bias, I’m all for it. Anything is worth trying to avoid the pain and destruction of terrorism in all the forms that it takes.Many thanks Erik and Elisa, peace and love to everyone,
    joanne(Irl)

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Well said, Joanne. Let’s set a day and time to shower those areas of the world with love and white light!

  • Denise

    “Erik: But most people can’t do the love and the good without finding some kind of hatred or deceit—and even—I find it so odd, Mom, the people who are really good at the love and enlightenment bit, then somebody will come up and completely consider them pussies for being so happy!”

    They may think I’m a pussy but I bet I’m stronger and I’ll have more fun! Thanks for backing me up, Erik.

  • amy cavanaugh

    re: date and time of white love-you know we are all on different time zones but so very connected-how about everyday at a set time (using GMT or some other universal time) the CE tribe pauses to connect and send collective love to a certain cause-geographic local-person-whatever- it will bond us and show them our collective strenghth-just sayin-

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Sounds good! What about you folks in Europe, etc. Can you give us a good GMT time?

  • joanne (Irl)

    Hi everyone, I’ll go with the flow, whatever suits us all, I’m actually brutal working out times, but it’s almost eleven at night here, so does that mean everyone’s up ? x Joanne

  • jane

    Elisa I heard of that study as well but can’t remember, how did they send “nonprayer” messages? Like, via email? Or snail mail? Or just thought the messages at them?

    I also remember that later research found prayer to have no effect and that the first study that was so widely reported turned out to be invalid… I was totally bummed bc it makes so much sense that prayer would have some positive effect. But then again there have been people whose loved ones have died or suffered despite the most fervent prayers.
    I wonder what the very latest research shows? You would know better than I I’m sure…

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      It was all thoughts, Jane. I think Dean Radin does some “thought creates reality” work. Maybe do a search on YouTube?

  • MaryM

    I just wanted to mention that if we keep our vibration up and help themselves and those who are here to help and who made it their life mission to help, we would have a more balanced world. Not trying to understand everything and just helping yourself to help people live more as themselves.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Exactly, MaryM! It’s just about the love.

  • NewBeliever

    It was catholic emancipation I was talking about under Daniel O’Connell. Apologies – but I was only trying to point out that every war has 2 sides to it. Nice to have another Irish person on Eriks blog..who else is out there from Europe? Peace to all :-)

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      We have Kerrie from Australia, Tracy from Scotland, some from India, the Philippines, and I’m sure other places too. You “furiners” tell us where you’re from! (Sorry, had to throw in a little Texas lingo, heehee.)

  • Joanne

    Hi Newbeliever, and likewise, it’s nice to know your here too. Actually I’m sure there’s lots of us , lurking away. There has to be, I keep plugging the blog! Erik, change tactics, start smelly visits to the lurkers until they post. And maryM , how true. Love,joanne

  • Jane

    I keep thinking about Erik’s statement “But most people can’t do the love and the good without finding some kind of hatred or deceit” and wondering what he meant by that. Upon re-reading the transcript it really sounds like he is saying that it is some kind of function of this world (i base this also on a comment he made on one of the other threads – the most recent one on suicide i think)and that it is NOT a good or desirable thing. That in fact we need to be more like souls are in heaven who can recognize and enjoy love and perpetuate it without thinking there must also be hate to help us “learn.” Indeed Erik says “That’s something we really need to get over…Humans only know how to measure good if there’s bad in the world.”
    I am all for it of course! But why are we that way in the first place? Some byproduct of free will and all that residue settled here in this world and we’re the dung-beetles that live in it, trying to process it and clean it up? Did our souls volunteer to join the Haz-Mat team of the universe? :)
    My mind is just guessing in the statements above but i really do want to know why he thinks we came to use “Bad” to measure “Good” in the first place and how we can collectively measure “Good” by rejoicing in it and spreading it.
    For example it would be so nice to not need people to be poor for us to realize we are blessed and happy b/c “at least we’re not THEM.” If everyone had abundance, i know most of the people who read this blog would be so happy, why is that not the case with everyone?

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