Channeling Erik

December15th

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This is the moment I’ve been waiting for: Erik’s mind bending explanation of Time. In subsequent sessions, he further elaborates, so this only skims the surface. Please take you “time” (hee hee) and soak it all in. Enjoy!

Channeling Transcript

Me: Okay, now. I’d like to talk about the concept of time. Erik, how do you perceive time, and how does that dovetail into our concept of time, our construct? How does it reconcile with past and future lives?

Jamie: He pulls out—to me it looks like a slinky—and he’s stretching it and collapsing it and stretching it and collapsing it.

Me: Cool!!

Jamie: Like a big spring!

(Long pause as Jamie listens)

Jamie (giggling): He’s just rattling off all kinds of things! Now Erik, slooooow down! Talk really slowly for this, because it boggles my mind.

Erik: All right. When—

(Pause)

Jamie: Simple Erik! More simple!

(Pause)

Jamie (chuckling): He’s just laughing at me! No, no, no, Erik. Simpler will be easier to write about, and then you can get more complicated as we go.

Me: Yes, please. Dumb it down for us.

Erik: Within each dimension, there are different measurements of time.

Me: Okay.

Erik: Let’s start there.

(Pause)

Erik: When we’re human, time for us is taught in a linear pattern. Let’s take language. It’s through the very linear human language that sequences are possible. It allows us to arrange events and actions sequentially. Um, with that sequential language, present moments become surrounded by past moments and future moments. So it’s a human fabrication. Think about all the tenses we use: past, present and future.

Me: Wow!

Jamie: What is that, Erik? He’s saying “A to B, tick, tock, tick, tock,” and he does his hand like a clock.

Erik: You—humans—don’t go backwards. You only go forward and only at a certain speed. Okay. (pause) Now in this dimension, this dimension we reside in as humans, there is a measurement that’s not applied, and it happens to all of us—where time speeds up and slows down. It’s like a breath. You can breathe in deep and hold it and slow down your heart rate, or you can breathe quickly and bring up your heart rate. This happens, say, when we get in a car, and we know we’re running late, but we don’t speed, but we still get there on time, maybe even a little early. And then we wonder how that happened!

Me: Ah!

Erik: Because you hit the red lights like you always do; you stop at the traffic signs; you let people in front of you, and you still made it on time.

Me: Um hm. That’s happened to me many times.

Erik: And there are those that think they have plenty of time. They gather their items together, which should take just a minute, but ten minutes is gone. Time speeds up.

Me: Or like when you’re working on a project and you’re really “in the zone,” completely immersed in it, then you look at the clock, and what seemed like an hour ends up being three.

Erik: Yes, In the zone. That’s what we’re going to talk about, because that’s an emotional state of being.

Jamie: And he’s pointing his finger like, “I’m talking about a point.”

Me: Oh, so we better pay attention!

Jamie (giggling): His finger is just going to town.

Erik: It’s an emotional state of being. With joy—not happiness—joy, what do you think time does—speed up or slow down?

Me: Slows down? (pause) Oh, heck, I don’t know. It probably depends on what side of the clock, uh, of time, you’re on. It depends on your point of reference. I’m so confused!

Erik: That’s true. Most of the time, with joy, there’s expansion. And in that expansion, time feels elusive, but it speeds up.

Me: Oh, it speeds up! Once you get out of it, you see that it has sped up. While you’re in it, it seems to be—

Erik: Expansive, huge.

Me: And then after it’s over, then it seems like, “Wow, where did the time go?”

Erik: Yeah, think of your wedding, Mom. You’re getting married, your walking down the aisle, everything just seems larger than life. And then when the night’s over, you feel like you only had thirty minutes.

Me: Yeah. Okay.

Erik: Now think about grief. The grief state-of-mind.

Me: Oh, boy. Time goes on forever.

Erik: Forever. It’s really narrow-minded. It’s like looking straight down, only at your feet.

Me: Ah!

Erik: And time moves very slowly.

Me: So is this the slinky?

Erik: Yes! That’s our emotional state of being affecting time—the human construct of time. So language sort of frames it, and emotions can expand or contract it.

Me: Fascinating.

Erik: Mom, don’t you notice how when people grieve or they have hardships or challenges how they age so fast?

Me: Yes, because I’ve aged ten years in the past year. And look at all the presidents and how they get so gray so quickly.

Erik: But when people are joyful, their bodies stay youthful.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: That’s a time. That’s a measurement of time.

Me: Wow, interesting!

Erik: So on the earthly dimension, time is a function of language, motion, and emotion. Motion and language create your perception of time, and emotion expands or contracts it. Time exists only in consciousness. Outside of consciousness, it doesn’t.

Me: Whoa. That’s a mind-bender, Erik!

Erik: Now, when you go beyond the dimension you live in—uh, okay on earth, you find that time can have different measurements. It can have—bear with me—a front side and a back side. The front side can be what you’re focused on. You focus on it, you create it. You focus on expansion, you can do that. The back side is when there’s no focus, where there’s no measurement. Time can be as it is. This is when everything happens at once?

Jamie: Oh, he didn’t say it like a question. I said it like a question, looking at him like, “What?”

(Long pause)

Jamie: Ohhhh! I’m arguing with him just a little bit, because he says that in the truth of realities that we can understand, time is all happening at once. There’s no future, there’s no past. There just “is,” and that’s basically how time is for them over there in Erik’s dimension.

Me: Okay.

Jamie: So my question to him was, “Are you really trying to tell me that looking at something grander like the cycle of Earth, is being created, lived on, and destroyed all at the same time?

(Pause)

Jamie: He looks at me and laughs and goes, “Yep.”

Me: So we are living our past and future lives at the same time we do our present lives, I suppose?”

Erik: Yes, yes!

Me: Okay. So when people over there reincarnate, are they still there in heaven and that new life?

Erik: Yes, yes, Mom. Exactly.

Me: This is so interesting. So what is time shaped like over there? Is it just a point? Is it a web, a loop? I’m talking about the whole grand scale of past, present and future.

Erik: I get what you’re saying. If you need a visual, take the web, but some waves in it, and make every line intersect. So, you can travel to any location you want: any dimension or any future or past or present point. It’s all a moment point. It’s all happening at once.

Me: Okay. And what are those intersections?

Erik: Of lives. Intersections of lives. We have to speak in terms of past lives, because as humans, time is linear, and you don’t believe in the future until you’ve walked in it. So we don’t even talk about future lives; that sounds like science fiction. But soon, the term “future life” will be just as common as the term, “past life.” What do you think Leonardo Di Vinci was tapping into?

Me: Oh, yeah!

Erik: You look at his sketches and designs, and you can see how he was clearly traveling across time and dimensions, then logging what he was experiencing.

Jamie (in mock frustration, like a strict school teacher fussing at an unruly student): Erik!! ERIK! Slow down!

Erik: Also, you have to realize that we’re not the only intelligent beings.

Me: Hm, that’s true.

Erik: We have interactions with other dimensional beings—you can call them aliens, but people don’t really like that word, cuz it scares them or it makes them laugh. So, why not say, “other dimensional beings?”

Me: Okay.

Erik: Cuz then I think they’ll read it with curiosity, and they won’t, like, put a block up.

Me: Okay.

Jamie (laughing): People—Aw! The way he says this, he’s got his elbows on his knees, you know, and he just kind of drops his head after he says it. He goes, “People are so programmable!” He drops his head like he doesn’t know what he’s going to do with us!

Me (laughing): Aw!

Erik: I was such a victim of that!

Me: Oh, God we all are. And I can just see him. He used to drop his head that way when he was frustrated, like “Argghhh!”

Jamie (giggling): That needs to be a t-shirt, “People are so programmable.” I’ve so often wanted to use those catch phrases and then sell the t-shirts, because it’s so funny some of the things they say. They make such a good point in three words.

Me: Exactly.

Jamie: Well okay, four words. Thank you, Erik.

Me (chuckling): But who’s counting?

Poor Jamie probably had to take the rest of the day off after this session! I hope she treated herself to a nice long bubble bath or a walk out in nature. Tomorrow, Erik will explain a bit about our multidimensional multiple selves. Take an Advil for the headache you’re sure to get!

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  • KateC

    I’m *always* late. Time must never slow down for me. *grumble* :)

    It’s mindbending and hard to visualize, but not impossible for me to accept in any way. Thanks, Elisa!

  • Jodi

    Ah ha, the secret to staying young is Joy!! That’s why when we hold grudges or do not forgive, we are only damaging ourselves.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Easier said than done, Jody!!

  • Be Free My Angel

    “People are so programmable!” No kidding….would be nice if he could help us disconnect with that part of the brain, etc. But then I suppose that is all part of the human experience ?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Yes, Erik, unplug our brains from The Matrix!

  • Lena

    So this entry definitely reminded me of this video I saw a couple of years ago called, “Imagining the Tenth Dimension.” Which more or less is about how time is perceived and the possible dimensions. I’m not even sure how to explain it, but here’s the link http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

  • Iola

    This is making sense to me…and not. I will have to reread his explanation, but it rings true to me. I know exactly how time slowing and time flying feels…the past 14 months have dragged to very slowly, yet doesnt seem that long to me now. anyway, this is incredible stuff. Thank you, Erik, Elisa and Jamie.

  • Paul Conklin

    Dear Elisa,

    I would like to add to the discussion about time. There is a person that channels some of the midwayers that I have told you about. The chief midwayer came through and gave a lesson about time. It was very interesting and I would like to share that information with everyone.

    Bzutu: “It was great, even useful to exchange information with Midwayer Chief Brusque, and a number of his group’s members. Perhaps some future alliance between you and their human students will eventuate. From our viewpoints it was profitable to exchange ideas and stories, yes, meant for our mutual benefit, always. Take note: The 11:11 Progress Group is well ahead of other like Midwayer-administered groupings, but then you are the oldest of such troupes since the advent of the Correcting Time.

    “To the matter at hand now, since you are suitably relaxed and attuned. First of all let me explain that it will be extraordinarily difficult for you to understand what there is to know about time. However, we can come up with a number of explanations that will allow you to comprehend the different aspects of time. Also, I assure you that during this transmission I will suggest a break, because it is important for me not to overload you. So do not be perturbed when I ask you to again relax and let yourself drift so we may carry on.

    “There are many on your world pretending that this planet, and the entire universe, is a mere accident of time — that everything there is today came about spontaneously. Those who feel this way simply believe that they live in linear time; that the things they can touch and taste, hear and see is all there is. However, fortunately, the majority of you do believe in a Creator, or a Creative Force, at least, who put the universe and all it contains together for us to live in.

    “And indeed, you and I live in different coinciding bands of time. The universe we live in exists in pervaded space. Outside this pervaded space there is neither material nor is there time. Within the pervaded space there is material which is constantly being added to in the form of automatons. It is constantly nourished by an energy which is raw time. Throughout the universes and the galaxies there are countless minded machines, capable of directing the automatons, and the raw-time energy, from nether (lower) Paradise, capable also of splitting time into various bands.

    Note: At this point there is a break, as he said there would be. I’m now seeing a ‘machine’ that looks like a huge shredder. A wide, pure white flow of energy goes into this machine, and comes out the other end like ten or twelve narrow, nourishing time bands that have a slight dark space between them. Presumably, the narrow band on the far right is linear time, and it moves directly towards me. Next up I’m seeing a prism that turns white light into rainbow colors. I guess I’m being told there is a similarity.

    Bzutu: “We carry on. The time band you live in is often called linear time. This is where every single second that ticks away is added to history, and drawing your next birthday just one second closer. Your linear time is at the very margin of all times that are being produced by these minded machines. The Morontia Cherubim, Morontia Companions, the Secondary Midwayers, and the Primary Midwayers — as well as some to-you-unknown (unrevealed) other Celestials — exist in the very same space you occupy, but they have for themselves two bands of non-linear, more flexible, time, sometimes called the Midway Realm, sometimes called the fourth dimension.

    “A large number of your Angelic forces live in yet the next few bands of time. Those living in these bands are, like us, capable of traversing into adjoining bands of time. You will find that your linear time is least flexible. The flexible time of the Midway realm allows us to ‘dart into your presence,’ as well as meet up with our Primary Midwayer Cousins. And so it is with the Angelic Forces. There appears to be even less of a barrier for them to converse with us, and for them to converse with their seniors, in yet higher levels, or bands, of time.

    “You do not have specific words for the varied time levels, but one step towards it is for you to discuss things, individuals like ourselves, as existing in the fourth dimension, or the fifth, or the sixth. And so it will be with you in your future lives to live, that you will progress not only from one mansion world to the next, but also from one level (band) of time, into a further more complex level, where, together with your ability to perceive, you will be able to bridge more of these time bands.

    “Until such times as you are capable of coming up with better explanations, better words, better concepts, of these alternative times, you will continue to discuss these matters, and your Celestial Friends, as ‘being far away in time,’ or ‘distant in time.’ I trust with this I have given you an acceptable explanation of the fact that we can, do, and must, share your space, and be mostly invisible to you, because we occupy an adjoining band in time. This is Midwayer Chief Bzutu. I thank you for staying the distance on this somewhat complex lecture.”

    I hope that adds some valuable input to the discussion at hand. Thanks Erik for your spot on illustrations. It helps to get a better grasp on the concept of time.

    Love,
    Paul

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wow, Paul, this is fascinating stuff! The “bands of time” might be what Erik is referring to when he says the speed of light is often different in one dimension than in another. What do you think?

  • Donna W

    My spirit guide tells me what is going to happen in my life before it happens, then it happens just the way he said it would. One time I asked him how he knew. He said because it had already happened. I guess this explains that.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Whoa, Donna! Cool thought.

  • http://www.latikatripathi.com purvi beri

    yes i know about this and how it works, took some TIME in this physical form to get it though….it’s all happening in the NOW, and ‘now’ is ALL THERE IS…love and light, see you on the other side some DAY !!!

  • Nina

    Elisa!!!

    I can’t find your email address and I have a very important question to ask that I don’t want to post on here…can you please email it to me?
    *nina

  • Patrick

    I have always imagined “time” as days of the week in the formation of a semi-circle on the bottom and flat on the top shape. The semi circle is 250 degrees (not quite 270, which is 3/4 of a full circle.) Why 250? 5 “weekdays of 50 degrees each; simple! (I remember this from long before school and being introduced to degrees as circular measurement.)
    Across the top are Saturday and Sunday, each with half of the flat part. And then each weekday occupies its 1/5 piece of the bottom part. Notice it’s continuous, no beginning and no end.

    The names of the week are also curious.
    Sunday is the first day of the week, the day the sun rises and the week begins and Saturday is the last day, the day we are satiated or full.
    Years ago I learned Portuguese; in Portugal the Catholic Church achieved a shift away from the weekday names it considered idolatry and a threat to its influence. To learn those names for the days of the week, I assigned the weekdays in Portuguese to this flat top curved bottom model and just visualized the new names; it was so easy. (I always visualize time and the week that way)

    The weekday names:
    Spanish / Italian / German / English / Portuguese
    lunes / lunedì / Montag / Monday / segunda-feira
    martes / martedì / Dienstag/ terça
    miércoles / mercoledì / Mittwoch / quarta
    jueves / giovedì / Donnerstag / quinta
    viernes / venerdì / Freitag / sexta

    in other words, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus and astrology and constellations and influences from the heavens that did not serve the ends of the Church, prior thread subject refers!

    See how religious dogma and the perception of time criss-cross?
    Sunday is called Domingo/ Doménica/ Sontag/ Sunday / Domingo – all the Catholic heavy places all have the same name, but not the Germanic ones. Same for Saturday, sábado/sabato/ Satertag / Saturday/ sâbado, which of course is the Hebrew Sabbath, around long before Christ.

    I also visualize the time of day on a wheel like the dial of a watch, as do most people and do not prefer digital watches, and I always transpose the number to an analog visualization, as do most westerners.

    Why does the clock never end and never begin? Thank you Erik, because of what I always thought. Insofar as a matrix or a web, I look at dimensions as degrees…….a complete circle is 360; far out from the center the ‘distance’ is greater between degrees, shorter closer in, yet still 1 (one) degree. So we are closer or farther away and yet the same distance away? Yes, but not on Earth.

    Remove the idea of a circle on a plane; imagine a matrix web in three dimensions, which is cubical and infinite…now imagine the “wheel” with 360 spokes. Now imagine not one wheel on one plane but various wheels on multiple planes, and every spoke is 1 degree away from every other spoke…
    The source of things is the matrix and our position on it at any moment is our time. What’s the Spanish word for “uterus” from where we are all created physically? “Matriz” How about that?

  • Danielle Notaro

    Yes. Many years ago I had an astounding dream. And was shown the word Mobius and then a being said the past the the present and the future all flow into one another.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Mobius, yes!!!! That’s perfect, Danielle. And consciousness moving through experiences, travels along the Mobius strip?

  • Kasie

    FASCINATING! I have read through this several times and want to read through it several more so I can grasp everything Erik is explaining…of course being a very “programmable” human (perfect word for it Erik!) makes it difficult! Thank you for sharing Elisa, I feel that, slowly but surely, Erik is pulling open a heavy door in my mind and letting light (and truths) in. Keep it coming Erik!

  • Debbie B

    Elisa,
    What is more amazing to me than the information Erik is sharing is that “Erik” is sharing this, a very young man who most likely, on the earthly plane did not think in such terms…am I correct? I want to phrase this correctly so you don’t misunderstand what I am trying to say. Does it just blow your mind to receive this information from Erik? Wow! How could anyone doubt the validity of these sessions?? How do you keep your feet on the ground with all of this going on? It is absolutely amazing, incredible, over-whelming, etc… etc…
    Thank you SO MUCH for sharing all of this. And yes, I can’t imagine how Jamie feels after these sessions. Probably not enough Calgon in the world to clear her mind : )

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      She actually loves it, but it must be a bit exhausting. Actually, Erik loved physics class. He hated English, writing, history, but loved stuff like he’s talking about now. He did an outstanding report on Cosmology, the String Theory, Dark Energy, and stuff like that. Synchronicity!

  • Skoshi

    I’ve told here about the “time” I was in a carload of people in DC’s rush hour…I was in the front sitting between the driver and passenger, on the “gap”, no, seat, no seat belt, and a car was coming head on at us. Time stood still. I told the driver there was a car coming head on at us at us (he seemed oblivious), and he merged effortlessly, smoothly from the left lane to the lane on the right of us (the highway was about 5 lanes wide at that point), and all the cars behind us did the same…impossible ordinarily. Everyone just got out of our way. I’m certain I witnessed a miracle. I was totally calm and unshaken. Since then I’ve had other experiences where time slowed down or even “dissolved” so that there was a gap in experience. Like the time my truck went off the road in the Adirondack mountains and was careening down and the next thing I knew it was back up on the highway stopped on the shoulder. It was totalled and I and my dog were uninjured.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Amazing story, Skoshi! Hey, how’s that computer salt lick doing?

  • Kerrie Aus

    Hi Elisa,
    This reminds me of the”Matrix,” are we just being fed a program into our mind and none of this is realling happening. My son, David knew from age 4 that he was going to die before 20. Does this mean this life is set in stone and we can’t change it. Is it possible if past, present and future are all happening at once to change the past by changing our perception of the present and the future.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Erik explains this in a later session, Kerrie. He says we CAN change the past. Weird, huh? Boy, I can think of all sorts of things in the past I would like to change.

  • Donna Block

    :( I feel so stupid. I kind of know how some of my students feel. I just cannot comprehend this :(
    It’s one of my biggest curiosities but even with this great explanation I can’t get it :( help me please Erik.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Don’t feel stupid. I don’t totally grasp it either. I think it’s really hard for spiritual beings to translate concepts we can understand, especially given our sequential language. I’m just going to reread it over and over until I get it. Repetition helps me.

  • http://avalonrisen.com Ceridwen

    Ah, this is sounding somewhat familiar – I first learned of the concept of simultaneous time/lives from Jane Roberts channeling Seth.

    Besides the multitude of books she’s written, there was a trilogy of fiction she wrote that I would like to recommend to everyone:

    The Education of Oversoul 7
    The Further Education of Oversoul 7
    Oversoul 7 and the Museum of Time

    These books tell of an Oversoul in training, having to keep track of about 7 different souls on Earth, all in different time periods and locations. His comical bumbling efforts are being mentored by his Oversoul teacher, and he really screws some things up before he miraculously figures it all out at the end of book 3.

    Most of Seth’s concepts that he teaches about in other books are played out for you to really understand by example in these books – especially the concept of simultaneous time/lives, so if anyone wants to read further on this subject in a FUN way, I highly recommend these – I’ve read them all multiple times now and still get something new from them each time (as is the case with all of Seth’s books)…

    So far, Erik and Seth seem to be in agreement… ;)

    I like how Erik is simplifying the language more for us – it really makes it easier to grasp…

    It actually feels like we’ve burst through the chocolate outer shell and begun to explore the sweet chewy middle of things…and I’m so grateful to you, Elisa, for making this available to us! :)

    XOXOXO

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Oversoul 7? Who’s the author, Ceridwen? Are they fairly easy reads? (My brain is fried.)

  • lidian

    Ceridwen,
    I too remember learning about time from Seth/Jane Roberts. I was only 26 when I read it (over 30 yrs ago) and didn’t find any quantum physics to back it up until many years later. But I remember it just stunned me when Seth explained that time was a fountain all happening at once.
    It explained so much. So we come to that paradox point where truth seems to live. In a sense it’s all predestined and has already happened and in another sense the future and past are far more elastic and changeable than we can see from here. The older i get the more sure i am that we are in the matrix ~ only realizing it this time!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      The older I get, the less intelligent I feel. (hee hee)

  • Patrick

    Donna Block: Here’s a different way to look at it: Imagine you can zoom in and see anything from any distance. Light will travel the 289,000 miles to the Moon in about 1½ seconds. From your spot on the Moon you can see a car crash as if from 15 feet away. Did you see it as it happened or 1½ seconds later? Did it occur when YOU saw it or 1½ seconds earlier? BOTH, depends where. On Earth from 15 feet away the light photons reach in 0.00000001527 seconds.
    Now imagine it’s possible to travel faster than the speed of light; think of warp speed in Star Trek or hyperspace in Star Wars. You could then see the crash several times, from 15 feet away, from 100,000 miles or 286,000 miles away. Just move into position before the light reaches you.
    Now imagine three people at each distance. Can Person #1 on Earth 15 feet away tell #3 on the Moon what he’ll see in 1½ seconds? Yes, with a fast enough communication. Did #1 see it before it happened? No and yes. No from 15 feet yes from the Moon.
    Expand these times from seconds to hours / months / years and assume we aren’t dealing with light. Imagine changing positions by shifting degrees and movement at 1 billion miles per millisecond.
    Imagine a circle, you at the center. At 10 feet from you 1 degree along the circle is 10½ inches. At 10 miles from you 1 degree is 460 feet. Both exactly one degree apart.
    Is this helping a little?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      That helps a lot, Patrick! I bet it complicates things to know that in other dimensions, the speed of light varies. I wonder what the speed of light is in Erik’s dimension?

  • Candis

    Ceridwen- that was the thought that first struck me when reading this particular passage – how much easier Erik makes it to (sorta-kinda.lol) understand the concepts then the Seth books do. Like we are hearing it from someone that speaks our jargon.

  • Danielle Notaro

    Consciousness IS the Mobius Strip?

  • Lynette

    Jane Roberts is the author; the same lady who channeled Seth. After the couple few Seth books she wrote some of the information received into a simple novel format that could be read and understood more easily. Those turned out to be the Oversoul 7 series.

  • http://avalonrisen.com Ceridwen

    @ Elisa: Jane Roberts is the original channel for Seth, and She wrote the books. The fiction trilogy I mentioned is fairly easy reading, as the narrative approach simplifies things quite a bit more than reading her non-fiction channelings… :)

    @ Lidian: Yes, the Jane Roberts/Seth books were definitely ahead of their time, and they are making a whole lot more sense now that we’ve been introduced to quantum physics! :)

    @ Candis: I agree that hearing this all in our modern vernacular makes it so much easier to understand! :)

  • KarenL

    I came across a link to a short video just the other day (I think on Carol Bowman’s website) which discussed time with some other analogies that helped me visualize what Erik is explaining.

    http://www.closertotruth.com/video-profile/Did-God-Create-Time-William-Lane-Craig-/995

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Fascinating stuff, KarenL! When he says things are ordered as before and after and that this is an objective sequence, that was a bit confusing. If your birth is ALWAYS before your death, how do we interpret what Erik says? I think this ordering has to do with consciousness moving through experiences rather than experiences moving through consciousness. That, for me, is the key. Wow. I don’t know where that came from!

  • Thomas

    Wow, this blog gets really interesting to read from time to time…

    I guess we humans perceive time as something linear and somewhat rigid. In other worlds or dimensions, time as a concept may have no meaning. We know time slows down for objects travelling at incredible speeds and in the grasp of black holes, time itself and everything else disintegrates.

    Speaking of the meaning of life, the beginning and the end, time and the cosmos – you should check out the trailer for Terrence Malicks new film Tree of Life. It’s supposidly a story which centers on the life of a human being, juxtapositioned against the creation and destruction of Earth and perhaps the Universe itself. It looks mindblowing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlYYreuK8vo

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      WOW Thomas, that trailer blew me away! When does it open? I tried to do a search on google to find out but can’t really get anything.

  • Steve

    My brain was also fried until I read Patrick’s post, which really helped me grasp this better.

    Multiple simultaneous lives. Past/present/future all occurring at once. Alternate pasts and futures.

    Wow, we are really living in the dark on this planet in our realm!

  • Betty

    Happy Holidays! Check out Jim Croce’s lyrics to “Time In A Bottle”. That is a beautiful song and pretty much says it all. I wonder if he had a premonition that he would die so young?

  • Juan

    Hello Elisa (sorry I could not post before,
    was away on a family trip–Disney for my daughter’s birthday)

    we can say that our life has been pre-programmed, for example, our future occur right now in other dimension, which is our present – now?

    the concept of time in the afterlife is one of the most difficult for me, and I have understood that contains the truth;

    thanks

    Juna

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      It’s preprogrammed, but malleable, Hard concept to grasp!

  • Thomas

    I believe Tree Of Life opens in May in the US. Don’t know about other territories. Supposedly this is Malicks most personal film project, a dream project since he’s been working on the project since the 70′s.

    Funny how I can somewhat theorize over the concept of past, present and future happening at the same time – somewhat ‘entangled’ into eachother. But when I try to make something tangible out of it, something my mind can make sense of in sensing it, experiencing it… wow, my mind just feels so inadequate…

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Hardly, Thomas!

  • Paul Conklin

    Dear Elisa and All,

    I have heard that there are double the elements in the next dimension as compared to our dimension. I believe that we have 100 natural elements that exist on the periodic table. In the next world there are 200 natural elements. I have also heard that they vibrate faster than the speed of light. Thus the reason that we cannot see them. Also, because they vibrate at a speed faster than the speed of light they are able to go right through solid objects in our realm.

    The secondary midwayers also spoke about the bands of time and how we may perceive them. They said to imagine that we are in an open field. The field stretches on for a long ways. In our line of sight is a row of hedges that obscures our vision of the other side. They likened that to the next band of time that is next to our linear time frame. This band of time is where the secondary midwayers live. Remember, they live here right here on the earth. They share the same space, but live in another dimension or band of time.

    Then he said to look further down the field and you see a line of tall trees. Beyond these tall trees is the next dimension or band of time where the angels and other beings live.

    There are also angels that live right here on the earth. We likewise cannot see them, but they live in a higher band of time above that of the secondary midwayers. Again, they share the same space, but live in another dimension or band of time. Bzutu characterized it as the fourth dimension, fifth, sixth and so forth.

    Bzutu spoke about how raw time is being manufactured by minded machines. I don’t have a clue what that means. But I have heard that spirit orbs in our realm are minded machines. I think that the spirits energizing these orbs are in another realm while directing these orbs in our realm. Kind of like a remote control from their realm into our realm using their minds to do so.

    The person channelling this information saw a shredder of sorts and then he saw this raw time energy being split into about twelve bands or so. We are at the end band or the band that is our linear time. The other bands above us are more flexible. As we progress from our linear dimension to the fourth, fifth, sixth and so on, time becomes ever more flexible.

    Now, as to our Infinite Father, time does not exist in Paradise. He lives outside of the physical realms of time and space. And He even lives above all the dimensions where time becomes more flexible as we progress from one dimension to another.

    The past, present and future converges as one where the Eternal Father lives. As a matter of fact the Eternal Father can foresee, when we have chosen to do His will, that we will one day be in His presence. Even though this may take eons of our time to effect, He sees it as already done. To Him potential becomes actual even before it actually becomes so. Freaky huh?

    I believe that what Erik was trying to get across to us through his illustrations is that time becomes more flexible as we progress from this realm to the next one. I thought his explanations were cool.

    Now, there have been times when the midwayers or the angels have been permitted to slow our time frame down so as to allow our survival. I know that there have been some persons that were in a serious accident. Some have been in a car that was flipping over and while this was happening time slowed down. They witnessed themselves flipping in slow motion. It was like they were watching a scene from outside of their body. What should have taken a split second, seemed to take a minute or longer. Then when the accident was over they walked away without a scratch. This only happens when the midwayers or angels are given permission by their superiors to save a person or persons that are yet to fulfill their purpose on the earth. Way cool!

    So much to learn Elisa and so little time. Wink, wink, wink!

    Love,
    Paul

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Pretty freaky indeed!! (So little time! Too funny!)

  • Skoshi

    Well, my computer expert friend, Erik, obviously gives good advice because the salt crystals are doing something good, even if don’t understand it. The sick old computer, my son says has a virus, and this “health” new one also has a virus, but it’s working just fine. After he rebuilds the old one, I’m going to have him rebuild this one, because I’m concerned someone is capturing my key strokes and accessing my banking, etc. Tell Erik to send me a bill! LOL.

    When I JUST started meditating and didn’t know all the “rules” and what I could be doing wrong, etc., I had a gift of experiencing “no time”, and it changed my life. It was before all the heart/lung problems went ballistic, and I think it was a gift from my guides because they knew I’d need something concrete to fall back on to keep me going. They’re very patient and generous with us.

    By the way, does anyone out there know a literary agent who is a certified signatory to the Writers’ Guild who represents writers of animated film plots who they’d recomment? Rita doesn’t do animated film stuff, unfortunately, Elisa. The list of certified reps on the web is incredible to wade through!

  • Tracy Lamont

    I’ve had to read through this a couple of times, but Erik’s simple take on the matter coupled with Paul’s very interesting information, is finally starting to sink into the tired old grey matter!
    I like that concept of Paul’s that states that many layers of reality exist in the same space. This is comforting for us berieved as it confirms that our loved ones exist in our space, just not on our wavelength. Always there, even if out of physical sight.
    Another idea floating around in my head is to do with Atlantis. It was always thought that the Atlantians had progressed to such a level as to be able to interact within other dimensions and then, tragically, Atlantis plunged to the depths.
    But what if it didn’t?
    What if it’s still there, but we lower level humans just can’t see it and ships sail right through it?
    OK, you probably all think I’ve gone completely mad now, don’t you? Just a thought…

  • Michelle C

    Thank you Erik and Jamie xx

  • Linda McAllister

    I totally agree…I too have read all the Seth/Jane Roberts books and have attended several conferences. Seems like these concepts are coming into the enlightenment of more and more of us humans. My life and world view have been astonishingly changed by these studies. I am ever so grateful for having been introduced to them. My favorite quote is “when you are having fun, you are helping others”. Also think that the William James book is totally in sync with the
    Eric material………..Cheers, Linda

  • Clau Bueno

    it is so out of the box, it’s hard to try to be rational and understand… i try to understand and blows my mind… it’s like the “deja vu” experiences!… doesn’t it!?