Channeling Erik

May27th

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Gays in the Afterlife

Posted in: After Death Communication, Channeling, Gays in Heaven, Gays in the afterlife, Heaven, Homosexuality, Jamie Butler, Love, Michael Jackson, Psychic medium, Struggles, Suffering, Suicide

Couple of announcements: Robert is home safe and sound, and the fattening ceremony must begin!!! Also, I hear that Erik’s Atlanta public channeling event went really well. Weedie, Jamie’s wonderful assistant, bears witness to such events all the time, yet Erik apparently redesigned the standards. Here’s Weedie’s email to me this morning:

O-M-G

WOW!!
I had the privilege of sitting in your son’s classroom tonight. He was beyond the beyond. We had tricky weather in Atlanta and began without power; so, I was taking notes like crazy. As it turns out, we have audio (I’m almost positive) and I can assure you that I plan to listen again…he had much to teach and I want to make sure that I didn’t miss anything. I feel so proud of him and of you.
Loads of love to you,
Weedie

Aren’t you proud of our boy?

Channeling Transcript

Me: Okay, next question. Someone wants to know if gays go to heaven. I know they do, but they want to hear it from you, Baby. Also, many people want to know why some choose to be gay.

Erik (laughing): I think it’d be funny if you wrote, “Yes, gays go to heaven but heterosexuals don’t! They go to hell!!

Me: Oh my god, how funny! Yeah!

Erik: Up theirs! Sexual orientation—

Me: Oh, “up theirs” was probably not the appropriate choice or words, Erik.

Jamie and Erik laugh.

Me: Sorry. Go ahead.

Erik: Make sure you put down that sexual orientation has no bearing on spiritual beliefs.

Me: Of course not.

Erik: That’s like saying vegetarians don’t get to go to heaven because they’re not eating all the right foods!

Me: Uh huh.

Erik: And it’s also saying you believe in this one religion, but it doesn’t stop in heaven; it stops somewhere else.

Jamie laughs.

Erik: God is a non-judging god. God embraces all. In fact, if God—

Me: Because we ARE all God. I mean, there’s nothing separate from God, so—

Erik: That’s right! That goes back to the description of God being omnipresent and omni-being and—

Jamie: Omni-fish, what? Omni-fishing?

Me (joking): Omni-fishing. He fishes everywhere. Salt water, fresh water, he doesn’t care. Hell yeah! God’s a fisherman!

Jamie laughs.

Me: No, I know he means omniscient, but why do people choose to be gay? My gay friends seem to be more spiritual than most. They seem more highly evolved. I don’t know if it has to do with what they’ve had to go through, like their struggles or if it’s that they choose that life to teach unconditional love and acceptance.

Erik: Well, you can boil most of it down to two reasons. All the details I’ve already talked about before. One, is that they’re really made that way. They come in that way.

(If you do a search  on this site for “Gays”, you’ll find other entries in the blog)

Me: Okay. I’ll take another look at those posts. I think they were pretty early on in the blog.

(Pause)

Me: Okay, go on, Sweetie.

Erik: They come in with the attraction for their same sex. Some of them say it’s DNA made or chemically made in the body and, whatever—they come in that way. And then there are some that, when they’re here, they’re undecided. Then they learn what they like and they have to stand up for it. I’m talking on a soul level, not a biological level.

Me: Okay.

Erik: So it can be a learned behavior that fits their need. But you’re right, Mom! They have more of a sense of spirituality, because of the struggles they do go through.

Me: Yeah. (pause) I do think that some come in as such highly evolved beings, and they struggle with HIV and AIDS and discrimination and everything to teach others. Maybe?

Erik: I agree. Some make a sacrifice to teach the collective. You’re also gonna find more of a population of bisexuals. People aren’t as verbal about it, though.

Me: Um hmm.

Erik: But when you boil down the definition of living, it’s to LOVE ALL.

Me: Exactly. Wow, I get chills hearing that. It’s so true.

Erik: You’re gonna hear about more people “cross-dating,” and it’s not a fad. This will be the opening of people’s hearts and understanding—that you look for love; you don’t look for the wrapper.

Me: Oh my god, yeah. It’s like Brokeback Mountain was a real eye-opener for me, because I felt it portrayed the love between two souls—not between two guys—but between two loving souls. True love. And I think there’s a really wonderful message in that.

Erik: Agreed.

Me: So why do some people seem asexual?

(Pause)

Me: Is it because they come from a different place, or—

Erik (laughing): Or do they just draw up into themselves and their extremities die?!

Me (chuckling): Yeah! There we go!

Erik: That’s really how it looks, energetically!

Me: Really?

Erik: Most of that is abuse.

Me (sadly): Awwww Like Michael Jackson? He seemed so asexual to me, you know?

Erik: Yes. And often those who are asexual are labeled as gay or lesbian.

Me: Huh?

Erik: Yeah, cuz they don’t see the typical macho or the typical feminine.

Me: Yeah. So they just assume they’re gay or lesbian?

Erik: Exactly. But a lot of that is abuse, um, a history of abuse, and the self-loathing that results. It’s hard to love someone sexually or otherwise when you hate yourself.

Me: Aw, poor little M.J. My heart aches for what he’s been through.

If you haven’t already bought Same Moon, Same Sky, written by Erik and blog member, Betty, do so! It’s a good read and less than three bucks!! Most of it is channeled by Erik, and you’ll recognize his personality shining through the main character.

Have a wonderful weekend, all! Mine will be very, very busy. Kristina’s fiance, Houston, graduates from medical school today and my son, Lukas graduates from high school tomorrow.

 

 

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  • Be Free My Angel

    Congrates on your son’s graduation and Kristina, wish her my best with her future DR and hubby !

    I find that there are some really ugly people out there when it comes to gay’s. I thought growing up that they world was changing and it did, but Im surprised now in my middle aged adult life that there are so many that STILL feel that being gay is a horrible sin, and that they deserve to go to hell. That type of hatred comming out of religous sect, just turns me off to any religion at all. The hatred that comes from such self rightous people, such caring individuals, that caring is just a facade that is a guise for their control and manipulation. That is why Im here and not in church anymore.

  • Denise

    A while back I was wondering about my first husband and how our intimate relationship changed over time. I got back that he has experienced 5 or 6 lives as an ascetic and he decided to experience life as a householder this time around and I agreed to be the wife and mom. We had a typical sex life but the older he got the more comfortable he seemed to be with the lack of activity. Now he is pretty much celebate. I guess that memory/ habit is more comfortable for him at this time.

    He has always been a good person and a great dad, so I can only think that he has enjoyed the family part of it. I cannot know if he is punishing himself by being celebate; more likely he feels his chances of enlightenment are greater if he follows what he “remembers” as a way to samadhi he has learned in past lives.

  • iola

    I agree with you, Be Free. The ones who condemn gays are taught that in whatever religion they are into. It never made sense to me. God loves us all..not He loves the straight ones…or do we exclude gays, sinners, murderers, suicides, atheists too?
    I think they are more in touch with their spiritual selves than most of us are. I believe God touches them because they are special.
    The messages I have gotten over the years from assorted Christian religions is always one of..agree with us..or you are heading to hell. So much hate..so very unchristian. Its why I stay far away from their narrow mindedness.
    Congrats to your son Lukas! way to go! and to Kristina’s fiance too!
    and lastly….WAY TO GO ERIK!!!! knew you would wow them! Love you!!!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I just don’t get it. Organized religion seems to be the most conditional in their love. Love should have no qualifiers or conditions. Love just is.

  • guitarlinda

    re: gays, I am very happy that Erik said gays come here that way. My gay friends all say it is not a choice yet many self described religious condemn and think orientation can be changed or prayed away. I have a very hard time not being judgemental toward the anti-gay but do think that the anti-gay lack wisdom and knowledge to be more loving and inclusive.

  • Steve

    I can personally attest that for me, it’s not a choice. It just is. And I feel like on a soul level I challenged myself with this gay oriented body this round so that I can experience this and take this experience back to the Collective. Experience prejudice, being different, being outside of society’s rules and regulations, not having kids this lifetime, etc. It has been challenging but luckily it’s much easier to be gay, now, then when it was in the 1970s and 1980s.

    There are a lot of wounded gay folks out there due to rejection from friends and family.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      You sacrifice so much for the collective, Steve. Love you. And to all the wounded gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender folks out there, come get a big hug from Mama Elisa. My heart is bursting with love and awe.

  • Denise

    My brother is gay. He is, also, ridiculously prejudiced against women and other races.
    Go figure.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Haha, Denise, you crack me up. The irony of it all!

  • Skoshi

    Since Elisa founded this blog as a way of dealing with the grief of losing Erik and since Memorial Weekend is approaching, I thought I’d mention what a lot of people might not know: more than 55,000 members of America’s military died in Viet Nam BUT more than that committed suicide after returning from Viet Nam. Unfortunately, high numbers of folks who have served in the Middle East and Asia are also commiting suicide. If you know anyone who has served, please express your support and love to them. If you want to send a thought about them out to the Universe, ask for their highest good. Thank you, and love to all. – xoxo

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wise advice, Skoshi. Every time I see a patient who has are is serving in the military, I look him or her in the eyes and say, “I want you to know how very grateful I am for your service. Because of you we have our freedom.” Then I give them a big hug. Their reaction amazes me. It’s like they’ve heard it for the first time. So sad.

  • Dina

    Lol, Erik forgot about pansexuals, people who don’t limit their romantic attraction to those in the gender binary. It’s like a broadened form of bisexuality. A lot of people either have never heard the word and don’t know what it means, or misunderstand the concept and think, “Oh those people will just screw anything that walks.” I wonder what he thinks of people in the kink community.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wait, do they HAVE to walk? That’s discrimination! (heehee)

  • Denise

    Good one, Elisa.

  • iola

    I just wanted to say..I hope all my much loved CE family has a wonderful weekend. Its not a comfortable one, missing my guy, as you all no doubt miss yours…but am hoping we all find a smile in there somewhere. Love you all so very much!

  • Susan

    I agree with what Eric has to say about being gay. I have a few gay friends and they are wonderful fun to be around… I am blessed to have them in my life. I was besotted with George Michael all through my teen years I and wanted to marry him LOL. When I found out he was gay it actually was good for me because I didn’t need to be jealous of another woman LOL ;-) ;-)

    I also believe MJ and Lisa Marie Presely’s brief marriage was genuine and that they loved each other dearly. Not sure if MJ was asexual though!

    Love Susanxoxox

  • Kerrie Aus

    I believe our sexual orientation is such a small part of who we are. It is simply a human part of us. I get really annoyed when a person’s sexuality defines who they are and I get annoyed when people judge us only on our sexuality. I have some wonderful gay friends as well as heterosexual friends but to me they are just friends. Who cares what they do behind closed doors as long as they aren’t hurting anyone.(e.g rapists, pedaphiles.)We should see beyond sexuality,gender, race, colour, age and any other form of discrimination and love everyone as one.I have steered away from organised religion my whole life.I find most of it so judgemental.I believe it is all about control, greed and often money.We must learn not to judge.Love to you all

  • Jane

    Ahahaha this was worth coming to read the blog just to hear Erik say “Up theirs!” L-O-L! Up theirs indeed.

    Congrats on your son’s graduation!

  • Steve

    You rock, Elisa!

  • Christi

    Just wanted to share this song…for Stanley and for everyone here. If only we were already at the point where everyone felt this way.
    http://youtu.be/35Zqf-dqziw

  • Nancy Antia

    Hi Elisa,

    I was waiting to hear the news about Robert.I’m happy he’s back home “safe and sound”.

  • Nina

    Mama Elisa! ;)

    Congrats on your family graduating. That’s always such a landmark in people’s lives.

    So happy to hear you’ll fatten Robert up!

    I’ve always believed being gay was fine. Who cares??? I’m not judging anyone. And it pisses me off to know people think they can pray away someone’s being gay. I’m sorry but that is just pure ignorance. It makes me MAD.

    Anyway! I’m stepping off my soap box now!

    Love to you all!
    Nina

  • Stanley

    Hello Elisa,

    I have always felt that gays and straight and bi are all the same. It all comes down to one person loving another. Just, as you put it, a different wrapper. I can’t really comment on having a partner as that somehow has not appeared to be something I am to experience this time around.

    As long as I have been here, I have had no drive to find a mate at all. Friends yea, can never have enough friends. But that running around trying to get with someone just never interested me. Never was tempted with drugs or drinking either. Had no interestest in trying those either. However, we all come here for different things to learn.

    For me, I did wonder why when it came to finding a mate, I didn’t have any urge to go chasing girls, or guys. Perhaps in another life. :)

    Also please give Robert a huge polar bear sqeeze for me. I am glad he’s home and your fattening him up. I have no doubt he will recover swiftly. And please pass along congrats to both Kristina’s fiance and Lukas for me.

    -Stanley

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Will do, Stanley. Love you!

  • Skoshi

    In law school (eons ago), I asked a friend who is gay when he first knew he was gay. He said when he was a young boy, they had neighbors who were twins. He was on the floor wrestling with them, and when he touched the girl and felt that she was soft, he felt nauseated. He started more consciously knowing at that time. No one could ever convince me that the majority of GLBT aren’t born that way.

    Anyway, I always say, “why would I CARE” who someone else loves? Live and let live for goodness sakes. The only thing I’m concerned about is pedophelia, children being victimized, and that is RARELY by someone gay. You’ve heard about the study released by the Catholic Church? They say priests didn’t molest boys because the Church requires celibacy; it was because of access. Huh? If that’s the case, then maybe if they had access to wives, they’d have had access to sex?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Of course, if sex is used in a nonconsensual controlling or hurtful way or involves minors, that’s probably not about Love anyway. The Catholic Church is messed up in so many ways.

  • http://www.thebodycodetohealth.com linda

    Was just wondering how lukas was doing the other day. Did his pain stay gone? Congrats on Graduation!

    linda
    http://www.thebodycodetohealth.com
    ‘Physical & Emotional Healing for People & Pets
    – Releasing the Trapped Emotions that keep you stuck’

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      He’s doing better, Linda! Thanks for all you’ve done!

  • http://www.thebodycodetohealth.com linda

    Great to hear. Hope graduation went well. : )

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