Channeling Erik

October9th

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This part of the channeling transcript was not at all easy for me. The graphic memories, the heartache, the sense of loss, it all flooded back to me like a tsunami of dread and despair. For that reason, I’ve transcribed just a portion of Erik’s description of his death. The heart can only endure so much pain.

I do hope, however, that you can find some comfort in his words, particularly when you think of your own departed loved ones, because there are elements of peace, beauty and joy in death.

Channeling Transcript

Me: What did you notice after your death that was different for you, Erik? I know it’s different for each person, but as a general rule, what do most souls notice right away?

Erik: Their bodies.

Me: Yeah. You see your body? That’s the first thing you notice?

Erik: No. The body… the way it feels. It’s crazy, Mom, because you don’t have any pain, but sometimes that doesn’t register until like days or weeks later, as Earth time goes. There’s no hunger or thirst. You’re never too cold or too hot. And some notice it right away, but for others, it’s like a few days after they go, “Hey, I don’t have any pain!”

Me: Wow.

Erik: Because some people have lived with pain for so long, they don’t realize when it’s gone.

Me: Yeah. So what else? What other sensations do you notice right away?

Erik: Expanded. You feel expanded and lighter. It’s like you’re not cramped into that tight space anymore, and you can fill any space you want. Also, one of the first things you notice is when you think of something…when you have a thought, you don’t get in a car and travel somewhere to see it or go get it. You just end up there. Like when I think of you, I’m there. When I think of Bestefar in Norway, I’m there.

Me: Wow, so thought creates reality much faster there?

Erik (laughing): Oh, yeah!

Me: Must save on those plane tickets. No frequent flyer miles for you, though, Erik.

Erik laughs.

Me: But can you create a car or motorcycle or boat and travel that way if you want to?

Erik: Yeah! Hell yeah! You can create anything. Just like humans can create houses and build their cars; we have the same capabilities here, but it’s done in a much different way. Easier and quicker.

Jamie (laughing): He’s giving me this look like, “Oh, poor you!”

Me: Us poor peons down here have to do everything the hard way, huh?

Jamie laughs.

Me: What about the body? After you leave the physical body and look down at your spirit self, do you still have a body of some sort like a “memory body?” Does your form seem solid to yourself, at least at first?

(Long pause)

Me: I mean, when you looked down on your, you know, your lifeless body, but then looked at your soul’s body, what did it look like to you?

Erik: Mom, at that time, I didn’t even know to wonder if it was solid or not. It just wasn’t even in my realm of thinking. I was just too concerned about, “What’s gonna happen now?”

Me (sadly): Yeah. Must have been scary for you, Baby.

(Pause)

Erik: I know this sounds weird, but I didn’t have a lot of fear, because there weren’t those smells and sounds and sights and feelings that would create fear. It was actually extremely peaceful. And you know that one second felt like five minutes.

Me: Okay. Which one second? When you pulled the trigger?

Erik: Yes.

Me: Oh, okay. Did it hurt?

Erik: I remember the sounds around me but not the pain. It’s like I heard the ricochet whizzing sound of the bullet after it went through my head.

Me: Gosh, Erik, weren’t you scared when you were slowly squeezing the trigger? I almost feel like you probably weren’t sure you were actually going to do it until it was all over, like you didn’t totally make up your mind until it was too late. What were you feeling at that moment?

Erik: That’s pretty interesting that you knew I pulled the trigger slowly.

Me: Oh, I just got that. I don’t know. I just get the feeling you had not made up your mind until it was all over. Maybe you told me about your indecisiveness before in another channeling session, but I’m pretty sure you didn’t tell me you pulled the trigger slowly. That’s just what I get. Maybe it was channeled.

Erik: That’s true, but I didn’t really think I would die from it.

Me (somberly): Yeah, well, it was a 45 caliber hollow point. Oof.

(Long, poignant pause)

Me: What else do you want to share about death and the moment right after death, you know, what the soul realizes right after death?

Erik: Well, definitely lack of pain, like I said. Ease of movement. How thought creates reality in an instant. Also these wonderful things are happening to you. There’s this full-on weakness that you have at first. For me, I relate that to—I don’t know how to maneuver this body. When I was alive, I would reach out, grab the can, open it up and drink it. I could feel thirst and take care of it. If I wanted to see my family, I could go call or come over or email. But now these patterns that I learned don’t exist anymore. They don’t work the same way.

Me: Hmm. Wow!

Erik: In the beginning, there’s this sense of helplessness. I’ve heard some spirits call it release, but you have to sorta relearn how to interact with people and stuff. Some spirits know how to do it right away. You know, entering a dream or moving something away or making something appear. But some of us just take longer before we able to do certain things.

Me: To do what, exactly? Can you give me an example of something you’ve tried to do and it was difficult?

Erik: I remember I tried to pick the gun up.

Me (sadly): Um hm.

Erik: I tried to move my face to help me.

Me; Um hm.

Erik: None of that worked. My hand just went right through everything. It penetrated, it had a sensation; it wasn’t like my hand was moving through air. I could feel density and texture. I could feel the emotion of what I was going through.

Me: Did the emotions feel different?

Erik: Yes, they did. It’s like they weren’t mine. Though I was looking at myself—I know it was me, but it didn’t feel like me at all.

Me: Help me understand this. What emotions did you—your soul—feel right after death?

(Pause)

Me: Besides, of course, helplessness and—

Erik: Joy. Wait. I take that back. If I have to break it down in a sequence, I’m guessing the first feeling I had was peacefulness. Being at peace.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: I recognized I was at peace and felt joy. Then, when I saw that I was separated, you know, from my physical body, I felt I wasn’t solid, that’s when I went to go help myself, try to anyway. I only had time to try to help once. And I wasn’t afraid for myself, either.

Me: Okay.

Erik: Because I felt fine!

Me: Yeah. And then, did you feel like, when I went up there and found you, did you go through that, “Oh my gosh; what have I done” feeling?

Erik: Not right away. At first I was really interested in finding out what was next. I didn’t do the “Oh my gosh; what have I done” thing until I realized that it was irreversible.

Me: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so walk me through the sequence: you tried to grab the gun, then you tried to help yourself once, then what?

Even as I proofread this, my stomach turns and my heart sinks to familiar depths. As I’m brought back to that tragic day, magical thinking takes over in that for a split second, I truly believe I can intervene as his finger slowly flexes around the trigger. God, if only I could create a time machine. What would I do? I’d make him do the past life regression that would have cast a light into his darkness. I would have insisted he join us for lunch. I would have wrapped him in my arms and kept him there forever no matter how hard he squirmed and protested. But alas, there is no time machine, and magical thinking is just that—illusion. Or delusion. I miss you, Erik.

Tomorrow, I’ll try to transcribe and post another segment.

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  • mom2bzs

    This is fascinating.

    Oh Elisa, I can’t even imagine how painful it must have been to re-live that moment. Thinking “If only……”

    I went into a different space when I read this. It really resonated with me. Especially the part where Erik says “It’s like you’re not cramped into that tight space anymore”. This really felt true to me. I understood it on some level.

    Thanks so much for posting this Elisa. I know it couldn’t have been easy.

    Love you,
    Sherry

  • lwhite144

    Absolutely incredible. Thank you for sharing, Elisa. I know how difficult it must be to prod Erik for answers to your questions as it brings back memories of an excrutiatingly painful moment in your life. Yet, I am pleased that you are able to have those nagging questions answered and find some comfort in knowing.Reading your comments and those of Erik which are always enlightening and I find them comforting. Thank you so much for sharing. I am certain that you bring comfort to many. Love you, Sis.

  • buddy boy

    Fascinating… I’m speechless- can’t wait for part two.

  • Denise

    I appreciate that you only shared a limited amount of this transcript. It affected me strongly and I cannot imagine how difficult it is for you. If I were to read this in some random book I’m sure it would not be as impactful because of the familiarity with you through this blog it seems very near; almost personal.
    My thoughts are with you.

  • Christine

    Elisa,

    you are so very brave. I too dream of a time machine. Thank you and Erik. To know that Rob did not feel any more pain….

  • Skoshi

    Dear Elisa, I hope in time you will find comfort in Erik’s answers. Look at that typical teenager’s magical thinking…he was surprised that it worked and that it wasn’t reversible. They just don’t truly “get” that their bodies are mortal. Like Endre’s son. With everything they’re doing, they’re experimenting. Oh, if the front left portion of their brains only matured sooner. It’s enough to terrify every parent.

  • http://channelingerik Pat

    Elisa…again you sacrifice yourself so that others may learn from this profoundly tragic incident. You are truly teaching us compassion and understanding.

    I can really relate to what Erik is saying. I have had these same experiences in lucid dreams. The other night I had a dream that I was “awake” in another dimension and knew that I was actually dreaming.

    But I kept asking the entities that were in my room…”Am I dead?” They would not answer me. So, I figured, I better wake myself up. So I thought if I went into the bathroom I could splash water on my face and wake myself up. So, I just “thought” about being in the bathroom and I was there.

    There definitely was no feeling or sensation of a body or any sensation of movement except the lightness and freedom. But I can totally see how all one has to do is think about where they want to be and they are there.

    I also remember another lucid dream in which I was visiting this beautiful city in which everyone was happy and doing exactly what their heart and soul wanted. The city was built along a canal of incredibly beautiful water.

    I wanted to get to the other side so I simply went “into” the water. The water was neither hot nor cold…I couldn’t feel it at all. When I got to the other side I couldn’t feel any wetness either because my “body” wasn’t affected at all by the water.

    I have read, especially in Robert Monroe’s books, that when we sleep we are actually in the other dimension. The soul has to “rest” from the physical experience because being “in physical” is very hard on the soul. So the soul rests during sleep. So, we don’t actually rest the body during sleep, we rest the soul.

    Most of the time we are completely unaware of being in the other dimension during sleep and our guides “look after us”. There are times such as in lucid dreaming that we “wake” up in the other dimension. So, to think of the afterlife as “somewhere” else is actually not the case. We are in the other dimension, we just don’t realize it.

    This would be another great question for Erik. Is he aware of people who are sleeping being in the afterlife? Are their souls in a sort of a “rest period” or suspended animation while their physical body is asleep at which time their guides are looking after them? And, are lucid dreams when we actually “wake up” while asleep in the other dimension and experience it?

    This actually puts a totally different spin on which is the true reality…here or the afterlife? Do we wake up our soul to be in the afterlife or do we wake up our body to be in the physical life? Maybe death is actually our soul waking up from a bad dream?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      This is really, really fascinating, Pat. I think what you are asking is very important because it really addresses the true nature and abilities of consciousness. Got it on the list for sure!

  • Melanie

    So painful. Thinking of you always Elisa. Take care of yourself.
    xoxox

  • Lisa Potter

    Many hugs to you.

  • Nancy

    Elisa,
    I don’t have to imagine how painful this is for you. All I’m going to say is: thank you!!!

    God bless you,

    Nancy

  • Alexis

    Elisa,
    Much love to both You and Erik! XOX!

  • Donna

    I second Nancy’s statement. I wish I could get my mother or father to communicate with me like that. I think as hard as it is to hear, it must be such a great feeling to know he lives on. There is no doubt thanks to you both. Hugs.

  • Shelley

    I am crying with you Elisa. When we were back at the motel the day of Barney’s memorial, my husband was resting on the bed. He started to go in to deep grief. All of a sudden, out of his mouth came the word JOY. It popped out in with such an inflection, that it startled me. Then he put his hands on his heart and said “thank you, son”. I know it was Barney telling his dad he was ok. I thought of this when Erik used the word joy to describe his emotions. I am glad they are out of their pain. I just found a letter that Barney had written to me saying ” I hope some day or some time I will feel eased of my pain and I hope you can relieved of yours as well”. I am waiting. Thank you for giving me a place to share my thoughts and feelings.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I love you Sweet Shelley and send you a big warm hug.

  • AD

    wow, wow. sending you loving energy…this must have been so difficult for you. as always, thank you for sharing this with us.

  • lidian

    I’m reading George Anderson’s Garden of the Souls and came across something to share. He talks about how many of us who have stood by our loved ones and watched them suffer wonder how there can be something positive and meaningful in that horrible experience. He says the souls in the hereafter often say that the very act of our caring and waiting and watching and not completely abandoning hope is one of the most spiritual of all the lessons we will ever learn here. That after a death, great spiritual progress is made on all sides because we have lived through the agony and horror and have survived as best we can after falling so hard. He says maybe the greatest lesson is in the act of rebuilding hope after it’s been shattered and the eventual realization that there is absolute purpose in every moment of what we percieve as “suffering”.
    And that’s the very thing you are doing Elisa.
    XOXO Lidian

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Lidian, it’s interesting that you should say this, because I asked Denise once when she was at the height of her suffering, “How do you endure? What can I do to make your life better?” She said that she was grateful for all of her suffering, because it has made her more compassionate, loving and grateful for the things that REALLY matter.

  • lidian

    I’m reading this Garden of Souls and Erik’s comments at the same time. Just came across this from George Anderson: “While we here on earth tend to regard the moment of death as a monumental tragedy, most souls in the hereafter regard it as merely the transition to to their new life.” And that seems to be Erik’s attitude, interesting. “If the souls spend any time communicating the details of their passing it’s usually because they respect our need to reinact a major moment in our life. Otherwise, like their physical bodies, the means of passing is no longer of much consequence to them as they now have all they need.”
    It’s interesting to be reading this and then reading Erik at the same time!!! Synchronicity is a wonderful thing…

  • lidian

    yes i agree. To remember what really matters. I suppose it is true that our greatest accomplishments can happen at the darkest moments. I want to keep my heart open through this process and that is hard because of the pain but i’m reminded of a quote from Mother Theresa
    “I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no hurt, only more love.”

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wow that quote send shivers down my spine, Lidian.

  • Shawna

    Thank you for sharing such a hurtful passage. When I think of Pat and his doing that, I often wonder the same things that you do. And I too think that he thought in a way that it wouldn’t actually happen and I’ve often wondered what he went through afterwards and what Erik shares is so special to me because it’s as if Pat were telling me. I don’t know why he hasn’t came around in a way that I know it’s really him but I do know he visits me. I miss him so much.
    Also, have to say while I was reading this the phone rang and on the caller id it said some 0000 digits and the last numbers were 1111-but then it said wrong number- I don’t think it was, I took that as a sign from my angels. Another thing I thought was kind of cool- I met one of my friends’ son’s this weekend his name is Max and he’s 17 and he resembles Erik so much that all I could think of was Erik being around him. I know he probably thought why is she looking at me so strange…maybe one day I’ll tell him about Erik. And I was thinking that he could play his part in a movie…really!
    I get so much comfort from this site and appreciate you so much Elisa and everyone that contributes. Love you guys!!!
    Love & Light,
    Shawna

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Wow, that whole number thing is so amazing. I do plan to ask Erik about these numeric prompts. Anyway, I’m glad you get some comfort from these entries. Have you ever channeled Pat through a medium? It’s so healing. I wish you’d try.

  • Paul Conklin

    Hi Elisa,

    I belong to a web site that is called http://board.1111angels.com/. About four years ago I began to do an earnest study of all things spiritual and the afterlife. I found out about the beings that are time prompting individuals. These beings have often been confused with angels. They are called midwayers.

    If you suddenly become aware that you are looking at the clock and it is exactly 11:11 you begin to wonder. If it happens a few times you dismiss it. When it happens with regularity you know that something is going on.

    To make a long story short these midwayers are using these time prompts to alert us to the reality that there are other dimensions or bands of time. They want us to discover the Father within and to begin to pursue a spiritual life. They want us to know that our loved ones that have died are alive and well on the next world.

    These beings share our space, but live in another dimension or band of time. I liken it to the electromagnetic spectrum. There are many different wavelengths that make up this spectrum, but we can only see the spectrum of visible light. There are also radio waves, micro waves, X-rays, gamma rays, infra red, etc. We cannot see these rays, but they can be detected using other means. So too, these midwayers cannot be detected using our visual senses, so they make up for that by using the 11:11 time prompt to get our attention.

    These are electrolyzed beings. They are able to manipulate all things electrical. There is no reason to fear them. They are as loving and kind as are our guardian angels.

    The veil that separates our world from their world is thinning. We are beginning to see more clearly with our spiritual vision. We grieve that we have lost our loved ones, but we know that they are now soul beings with far more senses than we have here. They are able to use their thoughts to get things accomplished.

    We are beginning to discover that this universe of ours, seen and unseen is host to a vast number of beings, celestial and mortal. As we begin to discover these things our excitement grows because we know that when we die it is just the beginning. We are graduating from this world to the next world. The wonders that we will behold will be awe inspiring. That gives us the strength to keep going when this world hits us in the gut.

    Love,
    Paul

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I think I shared this already but my husband and I joke that every time I look at the clock (nearly every time) it reads 11:11. I had no idea it was a phenomenon. So I do have this on my list of questions: angelic numeral sequences, etc. And Erik is also talking about how vibrational energy affects electrical appliances, how they use it to move objects, how storms affect them, how energy sort of stores information, etc.

  • Tracy Lamont

    Oh, the agony and heartbreak you must feel every day. Such a brave thing for you to do, asking Erik such questions in order to help others in our position to understand and cope with the horror that is the death of a child.
    Elisa, you are a wonderful, selfless, caring human being. God bless you, you’re such a star xx

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Aw, Tracy, since we’re all One, you can say the same thing about yourself.