Channeling Erik

February9th

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Death, Council of Elders, and the Life Review

Posted in: 2011 Bloggies, After Death Communication, Afterlife, atheist, belief, Channeling, Communication from the dead, Consciousness, Contact with the dead, Crossing over, Death, Grief, Grieving, Jamie Butler, Life After Death, Life review, Messages from the dead, Michael Newton, Proof in the spirit world, Proof of the Afterlife, Psychic medium, Violent deaths

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Channeling Transcript

Me: Why are we so afraid of death? Is there a reason for this? Is this because of our penchant to see everything in linear terms so that we are born, we live and then we die?

Erik: No, not exactly. When we look way back in history, Mom, death was not feared at all! It was accepted. It was a ritual. In fact, the spirit would have known before it was going to die.

Me: Um hmm.

Erik: It was a transcendence. But that was taken away from us as we, uh, as a culture allowed governments to take place instead of family units, like a more matriarchal society where you allow—

Jamie: What are you saying, Erik? Patriarch? It sounds so funny, but he’s saying that this transcendence died when the matriarchal society was replaced by a patriarchal one.

Me (laughing): Dang those men. Ah! Troublemakers!

Erik: In fact, when we started to develop this (pause) religion—

Me: Organized religion?

Erik: Yeah. When that got powerful, that’s when fear started to arise.

Me: And material science didn’t help either, huh?

Erik: No, but what’s funny is that material science is what’s going to be what gets us out of this fear.

Me: Yeah, it’s like theoretical physicists, exactly. I was thinking the same thing! Must have been channeled!

Erik: Give yourself credit, Mom. You have incredible thoughts.

I laugh.

Me: Okay, let’s see. I have someone here who wants to know if there is a Council of Elders. I think she’s referring to something written by Dr. Michael Newton. He claimed that at the end of every life, we meet with a group of advanced souls to help us understand our goals.

(Long pause)

Erik: You can. You gotta remember that not every death, not every afterlife is the same, just how not every birth into your world is the same.

Me: Oh, yeah, of course.

Erik: But yes, there are Councils of—you can call them Elders. They’re not old.

Me: Okay.

Erik: So, but, um, if you think old as being wise and all-knowing, sure, go with that thought.

Jamie (laughing): He is a system buster!

Me: He sure is. He’s amazing! Now, some of the things, um, I’ve read a lot of Michael Newton and Robert Monroe stuff, and there’s some things that ring true, but there are other things that don’t. I can’t remember the specific things that seemed wrong to me, but is everything they say right?

Erik: No!

(Pause)

Me: Okay, Nice and succinct. Um, tell us more about the life review, Erik. Does everybody go through that?

Erik: Yep.

Me: Okay.

Erik: So, yeah, and from that, they can go into the Council, they can choose to rest where they go to sleep—most atheists choose that. They kind of disappear for a while.

I laugh.

Erik: Souls who are tired or who have had traumatic deaths can choose to kinda take that rest.

(Pause)

Erik: They can choose to evolve, to start opening their human minds by absorbing more of the spiritual realm.

Me: Okay.

Erik: There’s just so many options. You get to be who you can be, who you desire to be.

Me: Interesting. So, the life review, what is that like? Is it the same for everybody? How does that work?

Erik: No, from what I understand, um, how it’s viewed is different. Some people feel like they’re in a movie. Some people feel like they’re watching a movie. Some say it’s a 360 view, panoramic, uh, but one thing that is the same is that you will feel the emotions that you helped to create in other people.

Me: Yeah. Wow.

Erik: You’ll experience it; you’ll feel it. Even the most mundane, like some mundane thing that happened at the grocery story.

Me: Um hm.

Erik: Yeah, it’s a very intense experience. You learn what impact you have in life on yourself, on other people. When I went through mine, oh God, it was brutal. But no one is looking over your shoulder; no one is judging you. It’s just you and your decisions. It helps you sort of find the lessons you gained in that life so you can turn it into spiritual growth. My life review was all in my head. I was at sitting at a long table with my head in my hands and it all came into my mind.

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  • amy cavanaugh

    It was a transcendence. But that was taken away from us as we…….
    this is probably the most powerful thing I have read since I found this blog-we as a culture fucked death up- and Elisa contact the Ellen Show!!!!!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I LOVE Ellen!! Do you think she’s up to this topic?

  • Be Free My Angel

    I’ve often wondered, because of an awarness of this higher spiritual stuff, is this life a review? or Can we go through the life review and try to right the wrongs, go through it and actively participate in it, if time isn’t linear I would imagine that is possible. We all here on CE seem to have a knowing, we are aware and are responsible for every nuance like he said, being that aware is our opportunity to change it. Remembering it before we sigh in the line at the grocery store because we are getting frustrated with the person in front of us asking for a box that isn’t open, etc. Do I make sense? Is this life an active review where we have the opportunity to react and act with awarness of the impact it has, mabe in our real life we sighed loud, huffed and puffed, but now that we are aware that would make the other person uncomfortable mabe feel guilt, we dont’ do it. Mabe this is somewhat of a dream, but it is real, we can hurt, and heal.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      OMG What an AWESOME question, BFMA! I’ll add it to the list!

  • Be Free My Angel

    Another thought, just because we know that we don’t have to be afraid of death, does not give us reason to take our lives or someone else’s. Life is worth fighting for.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      True dat!

  • M and M

    I love the way Erik puts these concepts together, they just make so much sense coming from him.

    There are so many accounts of the life review and of feeling the emotions our actions have on others, yet even knowing this, there are still times when we say or do something that hurts another. As humans, in relationship with others, I don’t know how we could live an entire life time without hurting another, even if it’s well meaning or not intended. But if we review those times after death and really grow from them, then those things we say out of frustration or the actions we take out of not knowing better can turn out to be a good thing in the end. I don’t mean intentional harm, but rather the unintentional kind that comes up in every day relationships.

    Forgive the simplicity here, but I just had an ah-ha moment. Instead of feeling guilt over things done to another, or hurt over things done to you, maybe remembering that in the end there is a huge and lasting benefit to both souls is enough to let true forgiveness (and maybe even joy over the learning and growth that will be coming) take over. The kind of forgiveness you don’t have to start by forcing because you know it’s the right thing to do. I believe we still all have to be accountable to do our best by others, but in those times when it just requires a sharp word or tough reality check, or just a plain human moment of weakness, remembering that there is true growth at the end and focusing on that seems huge in remaining truly positive. Thanks again Erik. My brain is going to explode from all this new insight, but at least it’s a happier brain. :-)

  • amy cavanaugh

    re: Ellen totally-dont get me started on my anti Oprah rap-she is not my favorite

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Yeah, Ellen doesn’t take herself very seriously I like that quality in a person.

  • http://sites.google.com/site/kookyspookyookyjournal/ Jason

    From my research I’ve read, that the “full life review” is as fluid and variable in experience as descriptions of self created afterlife experiences based upon beliefs as any we have previously heard about. It is not something to be feared. And it certain as any universal law involving the advancement of the soul. It happens instantaneously and spontaneous. We are the ultimate judge. In fact I’ve read many documents that state this “full life review” can be had before death. The term, “My life flashed before my eyes” in NDE, and death bed OBE are examples. People suspect these though because upon return to the body the cloak of the mortal coil causes forgetfulness and dulls the awareness again.

    Now this “full life review” is meant to examine your most recent incarnation for lessons to apply to the grand scheme of your soul. You evaluate all your actions and inaction’s in relation to the world that was around you. From what I’ve read, this experience is all about feelings, and Spirituality. How can you apply your past incarnation to what you had hoped to accomplish upon being previously born into your most recent life. Now, there is a key to know about.

    This Full life review, is not judgment. It is not the step that determines your spiritual level or to what realm you reside in. This afterlife event, the so-called, ‘judgment’ is separate, and happens later. Now the thing to know about this term.. is.. that it is another fuzzy misunderstood spiritual word. A word that organized religions have run wild with. A judgment is self induced and controlled. In Spiritualist circles there is a ton of controversy and discussion on it. I’ve read that this event happens later on, but like the full life review always happens. And this review is what we use to move to the realm of the vibrational level our spirit has evolved to. Also I’ve read that you can start and stop the judgment if it becomes too much for you. It is also frequently undergone with a teacher in a methodical subjective way. You are allowed space to mentally work it out and contemplate it, if you so choose. I’ve read that this actually happens on any plane or level upon when you feel ready to evolve. ie. Astral, Mental, etc. It is where you can examine Karmic debt and choose to go forward or reincarnate again for whatever reason. This event utilizes the cumulative soul in all it’s parts, past lifetimes and reviews. And if selecting further incarnations this is where you select your next life and family. Sometimes this event happens very soon after death of the incarnate body. ie. an advanced soul who only came to experience a certain aspect of incarnation. I’ll leave off with a reminder that we don’t have the full picture and comprehension of any of this type of thing. That even if we did have a fuller picture it would be filtered through the limitations of this incarnation. So keep an open mind and simply say, ‘Huh, something to be aware of and think about for further contemplation” Erik once said, ” It’s now that matters, live life now, There’s no such thing as death. There is always and only now, it’s only perspective and how you want to experience that perspective”.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I wonder if we can apply the lessons we learn in our life review to some of the other lives we’re simultaneously living?

  • LaurenF

    Hi all! I’ve heard about this life review before, and am glad Erik touched up on it! I think it’s a good thing that we are curious and aware individuals. So hopefully we can think about our actions and change them to avoid the guilt we’d feel during this life review. Like Be Free My Angel says, we can stop and think before we sigh in the grocery store line, and think about the impact before we say or do something negative. Like Kim O’Neill says, “we should leave spiritual footprints on this earthly plane”. Basically live by the golden rule, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”!

  • http://www.supernaturalsensitives.com Only4Love

    Oh Elisa……you have to do an Ellen show……I love that girl! She is so funny and such a free spirit!

  • http://www.supernaturalsensitives.com Only4Love

    This is what I was thinking would happen and the thing about being your own judge….is so true..what ever stage you are at going into heaven will give you the pictures or symbols or thoughts to understand your truth….. The goal to set here on Earth is to learn to be your own best guide and to accept what is and when you do this it will transcend you into a higher knowing which increases your soul age.

    In heaven I am feeling that it is just that the veil is no longer there to block what and who you really are. No matter what level of understanding you are at…. it needs to be accepted and loved so you can gain a greater awareness and with this greater awareness you see more clearly what the truth is …..with yourself and the world and then the universe and GOD. I feel that since learning what I have learned over the past few years….it had set me free to love myself and others for whomever they are. We all need to strive for unconditional love …..it will halt the separation we all face.

  • http://www.supernaturalsensitives.com Only4Love

    oh…..remember what Erik told me the other day…….Enjoy Illusion….This illusion is just a dream ……we are playing a game….The game of Life……..and it is not about what right or wrong is or what our lower egos tell us…. it is learning to accept what is….in Edgar Cayces readings he said the mind is the servant. ……

    In order to train the mind to do as it should do and it should always be for the greater good……we need to clear away the thought forms that surround us by right thinking……I have realized that the sin they talk about in the bible is really just our own negative thoughts that cause separation in ourselves and other people. The sin is…. thinking incorrectly. Because thoughts are things they will manifest them in our lives somehow. We came her knowing that there would be contrast and it was our job to balance and just be ourselves.

    Because “ourselves” are the way they should be and instead of blame or shame ourselves and other people we need to take responsibilty for our own thinking and behavior. We are always looking to find the cause or the root to situations….if this is to uncover who you are and then move forward then that is excellent….but if you are looking for the root to why someone has to keep irritating you …..you have to look into that mirror and ask what is it that I am doing to you to make you respond to me the way you do.
    Kathy

  • Dina

    Deep stuff, Elisa and Erik. Can’t wait to see you on OWN.
    BTW, I found out last night, my friend’s going to name her soon-to-be born son Erik. K and all. This right after the “balls” thing really floored me. Don’t know if I’ll ever believe in coincidences again.

  • GeorgeN

    This is a great post and discussion! As I have experienced and sometimes actually learned a spiritual lesson, I find that I become much more aware of how the things I do and say often have an unitended impact on the people I meet. Over the last several years, I’ve worked hard at improving my communication (and sometimes that means I just shut my mouth!.

    I’m coming to the conclusion that it is spiritually a bigger problem when I know how to do better, but choose not to, as opposed to being in the dark and doing something out of ignorance. With knowledge comes responsibility.

    Blessings to all,

    George

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Yeah, then the pressure is on, huh, George. No excuses. Gulp.

  • Paul Conklin

    Dear Be Free My Angel and Elisa,

    Once we become aware we expand our horizons. If we are aware that there is a life review after our deaths we can periodically do a life review now. That will make us stronger and propel us forward spiritually. This way we can try to correct those things that we have difficulty with now. Then it will be easier for us later when we die and have a life review on the other side. Kinda like a prereview review. Ooh, I give myself four stars. Dang, I still gotta work on that ego. Rats!

    Love,
    Paul

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Ever the jokester, Paul!! LOL!!

  • Jane

    Aaaaah! I have just read the first few sentences of this and I am so happy! About the ending of patriarchal systems, I have been saying this for awhile now! Thank you thank you Erik. I believe it will happen.

  • Elizabeth M

    BFMA — Interesting question. Perhaps our best approach is to treat this life as if it were a life review. That is, the more conscious we are about how our behavior affects others, the more we consciously choose to be kind, the less “brutal” moments we’ll have when our time comes. This post is a reminder to me how understanding the spiritual realm and our purpose on earth enhances our human experience.

  • Kerrie Aus

    Dear Be Free My Angel,
    You have astounded me with your posting. I have often thought the same thing.Thankyou.

  • Karen A

    I have to say that Eric’s description of the matriarchial past surely rings true. I can’t remember where I read this, possibly in one of Gary Renard’s books, that we had a very matriarchial society prior to many of the major religions taking hold.. and now look at the three most prevalent, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, and all are definetly patriarchal. As a matter of fact, much about women’s roles in Jesus’ life and in the community were omitted from the Bible. I belive if women had a more prevelant role in politics and religion, this would be a much more peaceful planet. I also have read that as we are all starting to awaken and the shift happens, death will be again a transendance and will have a choice on when to “ascend” as it were. Thanks so much for your great work Elisa & Eric and please do contact Ellen. She’s the greatest and I’m not sure of her religious views, but I bet she’s more spiritual than religious.

  • Steve

    When I think back on all the negative things I’ve said/thought/done the last 44 years, it makes me think that I’m going to have a tough life review. Not something I’m looking forward to. As humans, we make mistakes ALL the time!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Ditto. Cringe factor–High. Threat level–Red. Sigh. Most of my transgressions was when I was younger than 30, so I’m hoping that’ll soften the blow!

  • iola

    This is such a great post and discussion. I feel like I have been starting to do a life review of my own these past few weeks..trying to resolve and let go of the fear and misery..so I can find joy again. Erik and Andy are my inspiration, ans Jason, you are so patient and kind…makes me want to do so much. Been trying to feel others emotions, and respond in kindness. But I have so very far to go. My sister says to be less of a grouch…now thats basic! I told her I would, but that I still get to be a smart ass…because I enjoy it so much.
    You all are so far ahead in your thinking, feeling. It amazes me, and i thank God I have you all to learn and share with. Thank you..
    And I vote for Ellen..instead of Oprah. She’d love Erik’s sense of humor! Look….balls! lol

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Iola, I think you and I are kindred spirits. We should meet one day. What city do you live in and god please don’t say Bangor, Maine! I love being a smart ass too. (You know what I’m talking about, Betty) and I do it in a way that comes from love, like you Iola. I also have far to go, but I keep telling myself that this realization is 99 % of the battle and it’s all about the journey, not the destination.

      I also have been doing a life review since I was 30 (so like 25 years now. I’m a slow learner.) I have always had a penchant for scanning my internal and external environment which has helped me confront some of the errors I made and find ways to forgive myself. Having children probably helped me more than anything. I lvoe them so much that I would do anything to make myself a better person for them. A humbling experience.

      I too adore Ellen. I have both her HBO DVDs. Her humor doesn’t require curse words or sexually explicit stuff. And she has a remarkable ability to find things that connect us, to remind us that we are human. Coo stuff.

  • iola

    Back again..I had another thought…In Dickens A Christmas Carol, the theme is changing your life before you forge the heavy links and that by altering your behavior, you alter the outcome in the afterlife…so if one makes a genuine effort to change for the kind, loving side of themselves, does this reflect in the life review?
    just thinking.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      We can only hope, Iola. We can only hope.

  • Paul Conklin

    Dear Karen and Elisa,

    When Jesus was here he established the women’s evangelistic corps. As you know in a patriarchal society such a thing was frowned upon, but Jesus was not having it. The Father of us all loves us unconditionally. Also, one hallmark of an advancing civilization is the equality of the sexes.

    Initially there were ten women selected for this corps. There was Susanna, Joanna, Elizabeth, Martha (eldest sister of Andrew and Peter), Rachel, Nasanta, Milcha, Ruth, (eldest daughter of Matthew Levi) Celta and Agaman.

    During the first century women were not allowed on the main floor of the sanctuary. And there are still certain places where the segregation of the sexes takes place even today.

    Jesus’s Apostles were shocked when he announced that these women were authorized teachers of the Kingdom. (Really it was about the kingdom within) But Jesus had said to his Apostles that ‘in the kingdom of heaven there is neither rich nor poor, free nor bond, male nor female, all are equally the sons and daughters of God.’

    During the first few years after Jesus’s death women were viewed as deaconesses. But Paul could not let go of his patriarchal leanings. (not this Paul another Paul, wink) When you read the scriptures you will see that Paul did not permit women to teach in the congregations. He made this declaration even though it was Jesus himself who organized the first women’s evangelical corps.

    You’ll be interested to know that these women live on Jerusem. (that is the heaven that the Apostle John saw in vision) They are now interested in being healers of their beloved human kin still on good ole planet earth. They all love us dearly and they want to help us advance spiritually and to heal us when necessary.

    One day all of this patriarchal wrangling will
    be over. We need to see that the sexes are loved equally by the Father of us all. Patriarchal societies still flourish on our earth, but we just need to keep plugging away at it and we will see some results.

    Love,
    Paul

  • Skoshi

    I like Ellen too. I got so frustrated with Oprah interrupting her guests to give her own strong opinions just as they were about to make points I wanted to hear that I stopped watching her show. Which isn’t to say that you shouldn’t aim to go on her show if you can. She does reach a LOT of people. The View would be an interesting forum! It’s too bad King retired.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      King retires? Who the f*7% is left?

  • http://www.supernaturalsensitives.com Only4Love

    Paul, Thank you so very much for standing up for us women….God knows…we women can be a little moody and irritating but…..we have the more empathetic nature why would we not be….and some of us women take a stand for what we feel. These feelings are real and Paul whomever he is…..was probably deathly afraid of our power to know the truth…..making it hard for him and men to do as they please. This not to say that all men are this way but some are.
    Kathy

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      TEAM ESTROGEN ROCKS!!! Sometimes it rocks the guys off their foundations, bless ‘em..

  • Carol Oliver

    Chris (my son) said his life review, although humbling, was also an opportunity for growth. He saw how his actions affected his life (and those around him) but he was also allowed to see if he out. A life review should not be feared…it is simply a time that we see ourselves for who we really are. Years ago I had a NDE and my life review contained positive interactions that I had with a few people that I had not even considered to be a “big event” in my life…it was simply a time that I had given of myself unconditionally to someone expecting nothing in return. I think we often underestimate how many GOOD things we do for others without thinking about it…those things pop up in the life review, too.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I’ve heard this before once, bug Carol, when you mention it again, it makes me realize this is not a idiosyncrasy. THese things that don’t seem important in our lives might be! I guess that tells us that we need to be acutely aware of the effect we have on others. Can you tel me more about Chris?

  • Shannon

    Hey Elisa! I’m so glad Erik touched on the return to matirarchal foundations from this train wreck we’ve been experiencing. Don’t get me wrong men folk, I love you deeply, but you weren’t cut out for running the world. :P

    @ Amy C. – LMAO!!! It’s pretty bad when you fuck up death!!!

    @ Paul – Once again, you make my heart sing. I can almost see the corps looking for incarnate voices to speak up and realign belief systems. Thank you.

    S.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      LOL!!!!

  • Jane

    Hi Carol! In your post you said “but he was also allowed to see if he out.” Was that a typo or did it just fly over my head? :)

  • Carol

    Chris was my son. He died 5/1/2208 after drinking beers all day with two friends in Mexico (we’ve in San Diego). Too drunk to cross the border his friends opted for a hotel room for the night. One friend was to “watch” Chris. He started drinking with the guy next door. Checked Chris once, he was snoring. Checked him again and he was dead. Chris aspirated a small amount of fluid. He was 28 years old. Super good-looking, he always had the girls swooning around him…and he always had his Mama around his little finger! We were very close, he’s my oldest child and I think the bond that a mother has with their first child is unique and intense compared to other births…not that I don’t love the other two (daughters) I just think I was so blown away by how much love a mother has for their child. Chris was always quiet, a kind and sensitive soul. He battled drugs as a teen, alcohol and some drugs as an adult. I had stated to let my guards down because he was right at the tail end of his party days…even alcohol wasn’t a daily thing. Enter disappointment (not enough rent $) and he slipped into drinking for the day to forget about his stressors. It cost him his life. I’ve been able to hear him since he died…he always says, “I’m sorry Mama, I didn’t mean this to happen”. His voice is farther away now, which pisses me off. He’s off having a grand time, “There’s so much to do here, I love it! I haven’t even started to tap into all you can do.” while I’m still having a horrible time coping with the changes. (After Chris died my 14 year “good” marriage fell apart. My husband left with 98% of our belongings, his 3 kids and my English bulldog, Tank. He couldn’t handle it when I would cry and after 4 months he decided that was enough. He rarely mentioned Chris after he died, although the two were close. I’d call that dysfunctional grieving.) Chris’ voice was clearer to hear when he first died. As he progresses on the other side it seems farther away; however for about one week before his birthday, death anniversary, my birthday,etc. he hangs around closer and I hear him really clear again. I squawk at him now, “Why can’t you be more like Erik? Look how often he hangs out with HIS mom!”. I think they’ve met, I know the two of them pulled a stunt on me around Christmas and I could hear several of them laughing in the background. I’m also in the medical field, I’m a Registered Nurse; however I haven’t worked since Chris died. I spent much of the past 2 years begging God to let me die…not suicidal, just not wanting to live. I’m just now coping enough to be asking what is the purpose that I am still hanging around for, hopefully once it’s clarified I’ll get some perk back in me. My personality has changed probably 90% of what I used to be. I’m so proud of your strength, Elisa. I’m a wuss compared to you and trust me, I was NOT the wussy type before this happened (I was a self-employed nurse case manager; one of the most assertive nursing positions you can have.)The loss of my kid, marriage, job, income, health issues and now possibly my home all within a one year period has been just a tad difficult to cope with but I’ve definitely been taking steps forward. As so many people say, I appreciate this site. I read it daily and am so grateful for the spiritual messages that I receive from not only Erik’s talks with you, but also from the other readers who write in. I’d love it if they could meditate/pray for me and when the skies open up and a rainbow comes pouring out with a revealing message that will direct my next steps, it would be wonderful. (Ironically, Erik has been telling me to talk to you about all of this for 2 weeks now, since he doesn’t know me that well he’s been super sweet. Glad I’m not smelling stinky socks!) So, that’s my story…we all have a sad story to tell when we lose our child, don’t we?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      My dearest Carol, your story, Chris’s story…so tragic, tears are flowing. Believe me, I’m no pillar of strength. Most of my visits with Erik are vicarious ones–it’s easier for him to get through to other blog members than to me, a grieving mom. And that’s okay. It’s something to make me smile. I’m sure Chris would be with you 24/7 if he could.

      As I told BFMA, I don’t have it all together. I just try to turn my grief into something positive for Erik and those he wants to help. The deeper the love, the deeper the grief. My grief is very complex. Although most of it revolves around missing him, some of it revolves over the fact that he suffered so much while he was alive. CE is a great outlet for me, but I’ll have to admit that at first it (and Erik) has pulled me along, sometimes kicking and screaming, rather than the other way around. My grief made me a reluctant participant, but thanks to the CE family and Erik, the fingernail tracks on the floor are not as deep as they were!

      Grief can stress a marriage, it’s true. Men tend to recoil into their caves, bury their heads in the sand. Adolescents do the same (heehee). It’s hard for them to communicate or even think about something painful. Plus men think they’re supposed to fix everything and when they can’t make our pain go away, it frustrates them. LIttle do they know that all we need is a kind ear and some display of shared emotions. Sigh.

  • Jane

    I wonder, people whose decisions caused war and pain for thousands of people, do they feel what every single person affected by their decision went through? And likewise people who have brought peace, I wonder if they experience the relief and happiness of all the people affected by their efforts.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I’m getting that they experience the collective pain, but I’m not sure. Great question!

  • juan

    Hi Elisa;

    Thank you very much for that question to Erik, I know that I had asked about the appearance of council of Elders, (from the Michael Newton’ book )
    What Erik explains is very true, as Michael Newton tell in the book that he is the one who called “council of Elders”, for it appears to be more experienced souls, some of them from the Jesus Christ times, (even he explains that one of them died in the Roman forum, when a lion killed him for being a Christian in ancient Rome.)

    Thanks Erik!!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Sorry I couldn’t remember who asked that question!! (grin)

  • juan

    Elisa says:
    I wonder if we can apply the lessons we learn in our life review to some of the other lives we’re simultaneously living?

    Simultaneously Living? – Elisa, first time for me on this topic of “simultaneously lives” , this means “other lives simultaneously on the same planet earth or on other worlds o dimesions?,,,thanks for helping me understand!

    juan

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      @ Juan: Yes, Erik spoke about this a while back: Multiple selves, multiple lives, multiple universes, etc. Let me know if you can’t find the post and I’ll look for it when I get back from taking Robert to a doctor’s appointment! XO

  • Be Free My Angel

    Betty Eadie, in Embraced by the Light, also mentions the council of elders. She died twice in her life and once remembers the council of elders. It was her decision to come back.

  • Be Free My Angel

    Thank you everyone who commented about my question. It is one that runs a constant thread in my head since I was young. I suffered truama, since an early age and it continued througout my life, to this day it haunts me, the traumas of my life because they impact every decision I make. From an early age I realized that people had choices, but some people were driven by pre programming. I am trying to reprogram my actions/thoughts, my choices are sometimes unbearable to make because I don’t always know what is my choice or the choice that others would want me to make, so the programming is still there.

    I fully believe in the midlife review. Seem to be having one over my daughters passing.

    Peace and Blessings ♥♥♥

  • juan

    Hi Free Be My Angel and others about “Life Review”;

    I have read in some spiritual books, that the spirit “is called with the thought”, that is, if you consider that there is some life review that you want to do in this current life: whether to thank someone who has died (and also a person that is living), brings back the memory of this person to your mind, the image of that person in your mind, and talk to that image say thank you in your mind or apologize in your mind to the memory of this person, I know this can help on a spiritual-soul level.

    Thanks
    juan

  • Danielle Notaro

    Had a dream oh about 13 or so years ago that I was in front of a long table in front of some people either reviewing or seeing how I was doing with my life. I think I got a 7 out of 10. So it seems, we are in process of reviewing not only consciously but subconsciously and maybe that review was really taking place in another dimension.

  • Elizabeth M

    Oh Carol, here’s a big hug for you (( ))! Geez! Sounds like you got a little over enthusiastic when you were perusing the “next life” catalog of challenges! (Actually Elisa, I think you are in that same boat.)My heartfelt hope and prayer for you for a big rainbow of light and love to support and guide you through your wrenching trials. I have the same wish for BFMA and every other CE member here who has so bravely and honestly shared your story with us. Students, we all are.

    My humble thanks and profound love to you all!

  • Carol

    Jane…more of a computer glitch. If I move a certain way while I’m typing on my laptop I delete stuff with my belly! Re; “Out”…the accidentally deleted sentence. Chris was able to see other options that he had not thought of and was able to see how his life would have worked out had he followed a different path.

  • Carol

    Elizabeth M.,
    Thank you for prayers…much needed. I don’t know how many times I’ve thought about what has happened in the past 2 years (I actually gave the tip of the iceberg), thrown back my head and yelled, “What the hell was I thinking when I planned all of this?”.
    I’m sure we can all relate…

  • http://catloverssite.blogspot.com/ Rebecca

    I’ve wondered the same thing. I know the stuff I’ve done that’s been bad/mean,(even something I did as a 5 year old) and I know how the other person felt and I feel so sorry. I feel like I’ve learned that already, and don’t want to go through it in a life review. So if we “get it” here, do we have to review it again? I hope not!

  • Jason

    From what I understand if you “get it now” or are able to resolve the situation well enough to your higher self’s/soul satifaction (who has the bigger picture) Then upon life review, you just past it by without a 2nd thought. But if there is some ascept you feel the need to re-examine or something you missed. You will re-veiew it. It is also a “memory tool” Like for instance. Right now I bet 99.5% of us can’t recall very much about childhood. Life review is like plugging back in to all your experiences so that you can fully explore them in relation to why you came to be born in the first place.

  • Be Free My Angel

    I truly believe that bringing our awarness up a notch and being aware, before, just after or even thinking about things day’s, weeks,months, years afterward is a way to develope stronger higher connection to spirit, both ours sub conscious and conscious and those who are in spirit. I can’t imagine that after thinking about in life here and now and knowing that we shoulda coulda done better, not sighed in the store, that when we do review in our conciouse mind and put the positive energy out there the apology to the person at the register that we do still send out ripples. We are making a conscious effort to apologize to her and the universe and note that next time we will try a different approach and mabe in that approach next time it will only recognized immediately afterward, and you’ll have a chance to apologize to her in person, then the time after than it will happen in line you will remember what you did last time and not sigh at all. Being mindful. Love and Hugs, thank you Elizabeth !!! Peace and Blessings ♥

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I believe the same. Making amends is vital to de-brutalizing the life review. Plus, it’s just the right thing to do. I find apologizing so freeing.

  • amy cavanaugh

    forgiveness is essential while we are on earth-otherwise our hearts are blocked-it also causes illness. We must learn to bend like nature does.

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