Channeling Erik

May20th

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Consciousness and the Soul, Part Two

Posted in: After Death Communication, Afterlife, Bereaved, Channeling, Coma, Communication from the dead, Consciousness, Contact with the dead, Death, Energy, Grief, Grieving, Jamie Butler, Life After Death, Mental illness, Out of Body Experience, Psychic medium, Spiritual Catalyst, Spiritual enlightenment, Struggles, Suffering, Suicide

First, an update on Robert’s condition: I haven’t seen him yet today, because I’m working, but I’ll run over there at lunchtime. If there’s any critical news to share, I will do so tonight, otherwise I’ll post something tomorrow.

Robert has several sizable blood clots in his abdominal cavity, so apparently this not only causes considerable pain (the iron in blood is an irritant) but the extensive clotting consumed all of his clotting factors so he nearly bled to death. He lost over half of his blood volume. They’re giving him fresh frozen plasma to replace those clotting factors as well as packed red blood cells–9 units. He should be fine unless the intraabdominal bleeding continues. Hopefully, they’ll do serial CT scans to make sure the blood in the abdomen isn’t increasing. If so, they’ll have to open him up again. My guess is that the surgeon didn’t make sure all the bleeders were cauterized or tied off before closing Robert up. The “bad doc” horror stories I could share with you all. You’d be stunned.

And now about Stanley. You may have noticed that his story has garnered considerable media attention. We need to be there for him throughout this ordeal. Truthfully, I think this may be part of Stanley’s mission: to teach people compassion, civility and love. People need to learn that judging others is not something we’re here to do. And they must learn to see people for who and what they truly are, on a soul level.

One of the most arduous challenges of the human experience is remaining judgment free. We all struggle with it, but we have to remember that often those we feel the urge to judge negatively are often the ones that need our love and compassion the most. Who’s to say that Stanley’s story isn’t a test of our resolve to love one another in spite of our differences? After all, we are all One. If one suffers, we all do.

One blog member has graciously written a letter for us to mail or fax to Coburn, Herger or both. If you’d like to participate, email me at emedhus@gmail.com, and I’ll give you a copy. You can format it any way you wish. Here is the contact information.

The Honorable Tom Coburn

United States Senate

172 Russell Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510-3603

Fax: 202-224-6008

Representative Wally Herger

Washington Office • 242 Cannon HOB • Washington, DC 20515 • phone: (202) 225-3076 • fax: (202) 226-0852

Chico Office • 2635 Forest Ave, Ste. 100 • Chico, CA 95928 • phone: (530) 893-8363 • fax: (530) 893-8619

Redding Office 280 Hemsted Drive, Suite 105 Redding, CA 96002 phone: (530) 223-5898 fax: (530) 223-5897

Here’s a bit about Senator Coburn’s character, although this has not been verified. Does anyone else know much about this guy?

The parts of this that really tick me off involve Representative Wally Herger of California and Senator Tom Coburn. Both of them are from the Republican party, the party that claims it is for less interference from the government in people’s lives yet they who are a part of the government are sticking their noses in where it does not belong. Representative Wally Herger is a Mormon which makes his behavior all the more deplorable. The reason for this is simple Mormons have been and still are to a certain extent treated unfairly because of people’s unwillingness to understand and accept them which makes him a hypocrite as he and his people wanted and still do want understanding and acceptance yet he is unwilling to practice understanding and acceptance towards. As for Tim Coburn I find his behavior even more upsetting due to him being a member of “The Family” a secretive extremist Christian organization who’s hands a soiled with things like support for the “Kill The Gays Bill” in Uganda that would it a crime to be gay that would be punishable by imprisonment or death, along with making it illegal to rent a place to live to gay people and make it a crime to know someone is gay without alerting authorities. Also it has become public knowledge that Tom Coburn was also involved in the John Ensign sex scandal as a middle man. The gist of what occurred in the John Ensign sex scandal is that John Ensign coerced a staffer to have an affair with him, which while I’m no lawyer sure as hell sounds like like something like statutory rape. When things turned sour John Ensign turned to Tom Coburn to help him get his hand out of the cookie jar. For more in-depth information about this scandal and Tom Coburn’s involvement please watch the following videos at the bottom of the page.

Channeling Transcript

Me: Okay. Now how does general anesthesia differ from sleep?

Erik: Anesthesia cuts down more parts of the brain, where doesn’t. Sleep shuts down parts of the body, the physical aspects of body to rest, but then it triggers other parts of the body to do problem solving and stuff. Other parts of the brain are highlighted, but when you’re under general anesthesia, you don’t get that. The whole brain or most of it is totally shut down.

Me: Like a sledgehammer to the head.

Me (Shouting to Michelle): Hey Michelle!

Me (to Jamie): We’ll see if Michelle wants to talk to Erik.

Erik makes the doomsday sound: Dun dun duuuuun!

Jamie and I laugh.

Me: Okay, while we wait for her, what’s the difference between sleep and the out of body experience where you’re aware of your situation and surroundings?

Erik: Well, with sleep, the soul, the spirit is still connected to the physical body. With the out of body experience, the soul is no longer residing inside the physical body. It’s outside the frame of the physical body.

Me: Oh, okay. So when you’re asleep, are you elevated a little bit above your body, or—

Erik: Some people do. Kids mostly do that.

Me: Okay. What about people who are in a coma, a vegetative state, those who have brain damage? Tell me what you know about that.

Erik: Some of it is bullshit.

Me: Oh!

Jamie: I’m asking him why. What do you mean, Erik?

Erik: Even though the body doesn’t function, like the eyes don’t open, the fingers don’t move, the body looks completely dead—it’s just that we don’t have the equipment to measure what the brain is actually doing. The ears are working and the person is having a conversation within, like an internal dialogue, but they can’t get their mouths to open or their fingers to wiggle or their eyes to open to show you that they understand. As soon as they continue deeper studies into the coma state, they’ll find that the brain will trigger certain patterns to show or give proof that the person inside is listening, comprehending and are able to respond with an answer or a question.

Me: Interesting. I read something about microtubules in the cells being the origin of consciousness.

Jamie: Hollow strips?

Me: Yeah. Does consciousness have substance?

Erik: Well, energy is substance so, yes, it has substance. But science is wanting that substance to be very low vibration and tangible. Now these microtubules, they can contain the energy patterns of how the consciousness ROOTS into the physical body, because they’re throughout the body.

Jamie: Oh are they? What are they? Oh never mind. I don’t need to ask the questions.

Me: No, go ahead! So you’re saying these microtubules aren’t the origin of consciousness, but maybe that’s what roots it.

Erik: It’s a container.

Me: So it contains the roots of the consciousness so that it connects to the body, or, I don’t know. Helloooo? Help!

Jamie laughs.

Erik: Yeah, there are a lot of people who believe that in that hollow space, which a lot of scientists might say has no purpose in the body, no function, when they test, they see that they have a function they can’t define. This is where spirituality and science are gonna come together hand in hand.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: They’re going to start understanding that all energy is matter and all matter is energy, and they’re gonna create tools of measurement to find that.

Me (to Jamie): One more question, then I’ll see if Erik wants to talk to his sister. Will artificial intelligence ever be successful, and will we ever be able to create artificial consciousness. If so, will we be endangered by it?

Erik: Yes, we’ll be successful at it, and yes, there’ll be people who create it for bad. They’ll use it for war, and so they’ll be a need to design something that can react defensively. So yeah, if it’s not controlled—everything is great in small doses if used for good.

Me: Okay. Hang on, let me get Michelle. Do you want to talk to her, Erik?

Erik: Sure, but be sure to leave room for Edgar.

Me: Oh, is he there?

Erik: Yes. He’s waiting to talk.

Me: Oh, okay. Go ahead. We can see if he has any messages.

Edgar: I’d love to be part of the book.

Me: Okay! Of course you would, you big ham!

Jamie laughs.

Erik: He’s a pretty funny guy. He’s very forward.

Me: He’d have to be funny!

Edgar: I was too much for my own life, so I had to put myself to sleep, kind of like euthanasia.

Jamie: He is very lighthearted about it.

Edgar: I knew, consciously, that it was wrong, but I couldn’t keep up with what I was doing. I did love my wife, my family, but with most people who choose suicide, not only do they have to have the courage to do it—it’s not about weakness; anybody who chooses suicide is not weak—but you have to have the courage. And—

Jamie: He kind of does this stutter thing. He uses his hands to talk. A very manly guy. Older man, but not elderly.

Edgar: There’s always a part within the suicide victim that involves ill-communication. They feel like they have too much responsibility, and they can’t voice why they feel that way or how to ask for help to get out of it.

Me: Oh, yeah.

I think of Erik, wishing he had been more open about his darker thoughts.

Edgar: And that’s why suicide starts to become an option. I was on a lot of medication, and so I just kind of picked up a bottle and took more medication. I knew it was wrong. It’s why, uh, I was away from my house. I wasn’t in my house.

Jamie: He was somewhere else when he did it.

Me: Was it your destiny?

Edgar: I made it my destiny.

Jamie: He shows me pills. Lots and lots of pills.

Me: Was it an accidental overdose?

Edgar: Not really. I had the thought of, “wouldn’t it be nice if I just never woke up?”

Me: Aww.

Edgar: It was such a relief for me to have that option. And it doesn’t say anything less about my love and adoration for my family. Only suicide survivors know what that’s about. The rest will see it as so shameful unless they themselves go through that experience.

Me: So, are you helping Joan get out the word about surviving suicide?

Edgar: Yes, I have, I have. She took a very long break from her career, and now I’ve been helping her get back on her feet. And she’s doing fantastic! I’m so proud of her!

Me: Any messages for Joan?

Edgar: For Joan, tell her to keep using that vitamin E on her skin.

Me: Whatever it is, it’s working great!

Edgar: Thank you  for taking the time today. Keep up the good work. You ARE an angel.

Me: Aw, so are you, Edgar! So are you!

Jamie: He blows a little kiss. He’s like a man’s man.

Me: Thanks, Edgar!

There are many links about microtubules and how they might be the seat or origin of consciousness. Here’s one. Let me know what you think or if you find out additional information.

http://radialmind.blogspot.com/2009/01/microtubules-and-consciousness.html

Again, I just want to express how very proud I am of all of you for being so compassionate and giving. You are all indeed part of a grander mission. I’m honored to tag along.

 

 

 

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  • Su

    Hello Elisa,

    Just got back from part 3 of 4 of shaman training. I’m almost around the medicine wheel ;-) . Sending prayers of courage and healing to Stanley and Robert.

    Su xxx

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      That’s so wonderful Su!!!!

  • Skoshi

    Elisa – did you see that recent report of research they did on people in comas where they looked at the area of the brain while they talked to them? They found that the area of the brain for taste lit up when they talked to them about eating. When they talked to them about walking around in their homes, the area of the brain for movement lit up, etc. Fascinating. Should open some eyes about people in comas DEFINITELY being able to hear, understand, and not being brain dead.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Seriously? That is cool. I don’t know anything about that research. Where did you see it?

  • iola

    Who is Edgar? Did i miss something?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Joan River’s husband–I mentioned him at the beginning of the previous entry, Part One.

  • JoAnn

    everyday it seems like i am being shown new things about myself and my life situations that are about the topic of the next day i am beginning to see a pattern like this evolving. In a bit of a heated debate over the phone last night with my youngest daughter being extremely negative towards her older sister , I was trying to explain to her that the negative energy she was breeding due to all the negative outburst and thinking was indeed hurting her own well-being and good health. I told her that it did not mean that i was supporting the choices and actions of the older sister over her re-action but that i was simply stating that reguardless of right or wrong action of the other involved i wanted her to “see” that the harboring of negativity inside her own system is what matters,not the issues or the validity of her re-action. Well in this conversation i did tell her that she was acting like her father,which she told me that in that re-action from me,she could tell that i “hated” her Father. I told her that No i did not hate her father and i honestly do not have that emotion toward him any longer, but i could not deny that when me perceiving my daughters re-action/personality as one of being “like” her Father, I did have a strong emotion toward that and when i searched that emotion i can describe it as “jealousy”. So after the phone conversation i asked for some enlightenment to the issue “why” would I have a feeling of jealousy toward the idea that my “daughter” acts/re-acts like her father,that made no sense to me.Well the answer i was given or shown was very enlightening especially when followed this morning with this post on consciousness and matter. So here goes: the female genes or dna have a form of consciousness and a way to recognize where their dominanancy is reproduced and visa-versa. and that also the female genes /traits or dna is more aggressive than the male gene pool or dna traits etc.I was explained this concept as in animals and that i was witness to on numerous occasions that a mother dog when confronted with a favorite or her own pick of the litter, it is based on the fact that on a cellular level she recognizes the dominance of her gene pool in a individual offspring and she will protect and defend this chosen over all other litter mates,which are all her own offspring too. Now i as a parent of 4 children have no favorite and do not treat one any different that another.But in the animal kingdom i was shown that this form of choosing plays a big role in instinctual issues when it comes to “choosing” by instinct the strongest of the litter. I always thought before that the choice in the animal kingdom that the mothers made were based on the strongest shall survive,but what i was shown is that the mother chooses by this recognition of her own gene pool on a cellular level and chooses the ones that are a closer match to her own dna. I was shown where even in the human population this rings true and most parents do not recognize these choices or re-actions to the direct threat of her own lineage on a instinctual level. where as i knew i have a strong emotional re-action when i am faced with my children/child has more of their fathers traits/genes than they do my own that it causes a form of jealousy in my re-action to this fact.It was very hard for me to understand this information last night and also made me feel bad about myself and my re-action to my daughter has more of her fathers’ traits/genes than my own.i do not feel differently or in any form negatively toward this daughter and can not reason that i have this felt emotion of jealousy.but after reading the post i do understand the concept of “everything” inside of us ,every cell etc has its own consciousness and that some of our re-actions to certain perceptions in the mind are based on the reasoning of these parts of ourselves that we do not give any thoughts to. It also gives me the direct feeling that we are getting information from every cell/organism in our bodies even though we perceive that these are only flesh and bone organs etc with no direct link to our mind they are an equal “bit” of information to any thought that we consciously make or feel etc.and can effect our re-actions and our feelings and emotions.This kind of science/physics is way beyond my conventional understanding and it is something that now i have been taught i will have to investigate more. and it also makes it very hard for me to tell everyone what exactly it is i was shown and how that knowledge can be used to help others i am not sure of yet. it is just the fact that after being shown this information ,which i suppose i would not have been shown if i couldn’t learn and teach from it. but i do say i don’t understand the concept enough yet to even explain it in words that i know .the point is i guess,is that i find that within every post i find i have learned something new.it is humbling to say the least and i am very greatful for all the things Erik has taught me in his sharing of knowledge and understanding and i thank you Elisa for bringing all of this to us. i feel though that in trying to explain what i learned last night from spirit or my higher-self and the information on the post today that highlights that information , i have caused more confusion than anything else and for this i am sorry. I guess the excitement i am having because i am seeing tangible proof daily that spirit and soul is alive and well inside of us and all around us and here to assist us in anyway we need is what i am truly trying to teach from my experience. Love to you all!!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Isn’t the universe perfect, JoAnn?

  • amy cavanaugh

    I know that Keith never visits when I take xanax-more on the rest of the post later

  • Alexis

    “Never look down on anybody unless you’re helping him up.” -Jesse Jackson
    Much love and positive energy to all of the amazing CE Family! XOX

  • amy

    I have been going to all the news stories and leaving comments-simple ones like don’t you think that the fact he lives this way is an indication that he is disabled-I have noticed a few other similar comments sprinkled in I am not sure if they are from the group or not

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Yep, I’ve done some of that too. Thanks, Amy!

  • amy cavanaugh

    to be honest I am more horrified by people’s cruelty than what they are doing-people are saying nasty nasty things

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      What people are saying to Stanley is wretched and pales in comparison to his role play, which hurts no one.

  • JoAnn

    yes Elisa I do truly believe that it is. before i learned all these new concepts i had no connection in my conscious to any of it and now i can see the connection like i have always seen it ,,,,it has just become part of my sub-conscious knowledge now,,like riding or bike, or swimming,,its like once you learn to do it,,,it seems like second nature to you,,,prior to learning it if you were even aware it could be done,,you were afraid you would fail at it and it was scary to even think about taking that final step to learning how for yourself. I am so glad that i have took that step because now i have an brand new outlook and insight of my life and how i fit into it.Love to you all.

  • JoAnn

    ,,,,i have not been able to make any phone calls to help Stanley and Sandra b/c i can not make any long distance calls on my vonage b/c i am past due on my bill atm,,,,sorry,,,i wanted to be able to do something to help ,,,,so sending all the love and positive energy their way,,,,,!!

  • Susan

    My thoughts and PRAYERS go out to Robert and Stanley…..I pray for a VERY positive healing outcome…….

    Love and light Susanxoxox

  • amy cavanaugh

    This Stanley thing has hit me really hard for several different reasons, one is I have a sarcastic sense of humor. Sarcasm means to rip the flesh off. Someone once said I was brutally honest but I liked the brutal more than the honest part. But when I started reading all the comments-I was so horribly shocked. Even on health blogs-Christian Blogs, left wing, right wing, with all the differences in the world-suddenly the world could agree on one thing-Stanley = Bad Stanley = Stealing Our Money I have been going to all the websites that make mention of this story-which sadly are growing by the day and leaving the following post.

    “I saw this show and was sick to my stomach. Then when this investigation started, I found out that I know Stanley he is one of my “online” friends from a website a dedicated to a very common disease. Then I was even more disgusted. Then I remembered all the things he shared over the years-and YES AMERICA he is disabled. Then I remembered all the stories he shared of what led him to this point and trust me you would much rather spend a few of your tax dollars than walk in his shoes. Then I thought of how helpful he was to me when my husband died a few months back and I cried. Then I thought of all the conclusions I jumped to over the years by not having the whole story and then I was disgusted not by him but by myself.”

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Yep, I think Stanley is here to teach us to look deeper. To not judge a book by its cover. To not judge at all. To embrace and love because he is us and we are him. We are One and we are Divine in every sense of the word.

  • Skoshi

    Elisa – I googled the research before I put in the comment in the hopes I could provide you with a URL, but it didn’t come up. I get NIH’s e-newsletters, and it may have been in one of them.

    I did see other research that says they’re trying to figure out why some parts of the brain shut down and others don’t during anesthesia. Of course they’re certain some parts don’t because people continue to breathe, etc. And clearly there are “parts” science does not yet acknowledge. Lots of people approaching the death experience are on strong pain pills and they will tell their loved ones that they are seeing and talking to their “deceased” loved ones. I wonder if, actually, when we are unconscious from anestesia if we might be having experiences with our discarnate loved ones and we just don’t remember them when we “awaken”…they haven’t been recorded in areas we are consciously aware of. It seems quite possible to me, since we know we have experiences when we sleep that we don’t remember…even mundane experiences like dreams can’t be recalled once we’re awake. And we talk in our sleep and don’t remember it when we wake up, etc. I bet people can think of other examples.

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