I thought I’d switched gears and post another celebrity interview today. For all of you newbies, most mediums, including Jamie, are unable to channel celebrities. They just aren’t able to bring them in. I’m not sure if it has something to do with intimidation and self-confidence or what, but that’s just the way it is. But with Erik’s help, Jamie can interview any deceased, including pop culture icons, religious figures, historical figures, etc. This is one reason his conference calls are so successful. He’s able to bring forth our deceased loved ones and facilitate their communication so, so well.
Another note for the newbies: These interviews are designed so that they’re not voyeuristic or exploitive. None of that, “And stay tuned for the shocking story of…” element. No, this is about what we can learn from them from a spiritual perspective as you will see from the questions Erik and I ask. Enjoy.
Me: Erik, are you there?
Me: Okay. You seemed awfully quiet. Hey, let’s interview Notorious B.I.G. Want to? That’d be fun!
Jamie: That’s kind of what he was mentioning as well. B.I.G.? I mean, why doesn’t he just say Big?
Me: I don’t know. Maybe it stands for something, or maybe it’s just to be cool.
Jamie: Well, it’s got to mean something.
Me: I guess so.
Jamie hums, sounding a bit bored from the wait.
Jamie (whispering): I understand why they call him big.
Me: He’s huge, huh?
Jamie: Big guy, yeah. He’s a big guy.
Me: I don’t remember how he died. I think he got shot.
Jamie listens to Notorious B.I.G.
Jamie (to Notorious B.I.G.): I can call you Biggie?
This comes at a great relief for me, because it’s no fun typing “Notorious B.I.G.” out over and over!
Me: Hello, Mr. Hm. Biggie? What do I call you? How should I address you?
Biggie: You can call me Biggie.
Me: Hey. Hello, Biggie. How are you doing?
Erik: Some people call him Big Poppa.
Me: So would you like us to call you Big Poppa?
Biggie: Biggie’s fine.
Jamie (giggling nervously): I’m not asking him again.
Me: All right. Well, Erik, I bet you felt a little dwarfed by Biggie.
Erik: Yeah, pretty much.
Jamie: I was joking. I told Biggie that sometimes he just looks like a teddy bear, and I just want to hug him, but when he cuts his eyes at me, he makes my heart race, and I told him, “Maybe we can just not do that again.”
Jamie and I laugh.
Me: So did Erik explain—
Biggie: Yes ma’am.
Me: Oh, good. Let’s start with this question: What was your spiritual mission here on the earthly plane
Jamie: He’s got a deep voice. He’s got those, you know, pretty kind of—(to Biggie) Sorry but I’m going to call your lips pretty but they are. They’re pretty and full. And you know how it’s hard for pronunciation when your lips are that full, so sometimes, um he’s got a like a slang talk.
Me: Mm hm.
Jamie: That’d be so cool if I could find audio of him talking.
Biggie; My spiritual mission in life—
Jamie (to Biggie): Right, but you don’t mean it that way.
Jamie: Erik and I are asking him to re-explain what he said because the first way that he put it, don’t publicize this because it’s not exactly what he means, but it’s like being God on the streets. He doesn’t mean God like in the religious sense.
Me: Do you mean being king of the streets, Biggie? Being the boss of the streets?
Jamie: That sounds more like what he’s trying to get across.
Biggie: Bringing control and stabilization to the streets really. I had an extremely difficult life where I moved a few times. I ended up in Brooklyn. I was always in the wrong crowd.
Jamie: The way he shows it is like he’s bossy. He’s sassy. As Erik says, he’s a smart ass.
Biggie: Yeah, I always got into trouble in Catholic school.
Jamie: Why do so many of you guys go to Catholic school?
Me: Yeah! So many of the celebrities we’ve interviewed seem to have been Catholic!
Biggie: Well, that’s where you put the tore up, poor black kid, and it just didn’t work. So, it was about getting my ego out onto the streets.
Jamie: He associated his ego with the God kind of energy.
Biggie: That shit got me into big trouble.
Me: What do you mean, associate your ego with God energy? I don’t understand.
Biggie: God’s everywhere. I wanted to be everywhere.
Biggie: C’mon. God has a way of giving you direction without saying a word. I wanted that. Even though I was mixed up in crime and not dong it the right ways, I was getting satisfaction from it. So for me, I really didn’t feel like I was doing wrong. For me, I played what you would consider outsiders a negative role as my spiritual mission—to be on the harder side of life.
Me: Okay. Anything else about your spiritual mission?
Jamie: He’s not saying so.
Me: Okay. Were you here to learn anything?
Biggie: I was here to learn how to get respect and learn how to GIVE respect.
Jamie (to Biggie): That last one, that’s where the lesson really was, huh?
Biggie: Pretty much, cuz I could demand respect with just a look.
Me: Well, there’s a difference between demanding respect and commanding respect, isn’t there?
Biggie: Yeah. You got it, little lady.
Me: Did you understand, while you on the earthly plane, what the difference was between the two?
Biggie: Not much, not much.
Me: Yeah. And did you accomplish that lesson?
Biggie: No. I was taken too soon.
Me: Aw. Well, were you here to teach anything?
Biggie: I can only see what I was there to teach when I look back on my life. I couldn’t see it when I was in my life.
Jamie: He’s basing it on the example on what not to be.
(Very long pause)
Jamie: I’m asking him if I can be candid. He’s not a great talker. Not a great interviewee. You can tell he gets a little frustrated with it, because he can’t say exactly what he wants to say, and twice now when he’s gotten so frustrated, he just got quiet.
Me: Okay. Aw.
Jamie: He says that’s why his music career was so important to him. He got to write it all out so he could make sure it was exactly how he wanted to say it.
Me: Oh, good.
Happy New Year, everyone. I’m taking the day off tomorrow, so for those of you newbies who are not nursing hangovers and have nothing else better to do, you might want to comb through the archives.