Channeling Erik

August25th

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For those of you who didn’t get the message, the dates for the Austin event are between October 7, 8 9, versus October 14, 15, 16. (Sorry for my mistake yesterday. It is a Friday through Sunday event.) So that she can decide between the two, could you email Jamie and let her know your preference? If either one is fine, let her know that too. By no means does this mean you’re committed to it. I’m bringing my family regardless of which weekend it is, so I look so forward to them meeting you all! Jamie’s email is jamie@withloveandlight.com.

Now for a hodgepodge mix of topics.

Channeling Transcript

Me: Okay now, the Channeling Erik family was talking about whether or not we’ll develop some kind of self-sustaining community when the grid goes down. So many of them have such a diverse array of gifts and talents they could contribute to a group like that.

Erik: Well, not everyone will be a part of the community, because we have members all over the world, but a lot of them will.

Me: Okay. Where will it be? Can you give me a region?

Jamie: Um, he shows me Arizona. (Pause) And he shows me another spot in Colorado.

Me: So those are two options?

Erik: Yeah.

Me: Okay, let me ask you this one again. I asked you this through Jeannie last week. What’s the spiritual basis for humor?

Jamie (puzzled): The spiritual basis for humor?

Me: Yeah. I mean, humor is such a wonderful thing. It brightens people’s lives. We’ve already talked a lot about the spiritual basis for music.

Erik: Yeah, that’s all about connection to the spiritual realm and healing. Besides what I’ve already told you, humor is like having too much love in the body that can’t come out.  It’s like the body has to have these small convulsions so the love can kinda laugh itself out.

Jamie laughs.

Me: Oh, that’s so true! And Erik—you are so like that, because you’ve always been so funny! So you’re just full of love! You’re just a burning chunk of love!

Erik: Full of Love, Baby!

Jamie and I laugh.

Me: Okay, here’s a weird one. Will Texas ever secede from the Union? There’s been a lot of talk about it, and a big grassroots movement is growing and growing.

Jamie: Succeed from the Union?

Me: No, secede, separate and become its own republic like it has the right to do under the constitution. A lot of Texans are really sick and tired of the federal government and all the corruption in it. You know we have the 8th or 9th largest economy in the world! I think we even have our own navy.

Erik: Hell, yeah, it’s gonna happen!

Me: Really? Wow, so when do you think?

Erik: Looks like it could be a while, like at least 4, 5, 6 years.

Me: Yeah! So Lone Star really WILL be the national beer of Texas!

Erik: But a lot of people are just scared to do it.

Me: I know. It’s a really big step.

(Pause)

Me: Okay, Erik, you say you’re learning—you learn new things—but that’s kind of a linear action, right? First you don’t know information A, then you do.

Erik: Yeah.

Me: So, how does that jive in a place with no time? Is it just like, uh, I don’t know, just tell me what you know.

Erik: It’s like when you take the time to merge with something that you have experienced before—

Me: Um hm.

Erik: That’s when you comprehend. That’s when you learn about it. So it’s not like sitting down with a book, turning one page after another.

Me: But if you learn, that means you didn’t know something before, and if you have a before and an after, that means there’s a time sequence there.

Erik: Well, take the idea of learning as not being a new experience. If you imagine—

Jamie (chuckling on what he’s saying): Clever!

Erik: —stacking a bunch of plates, and  so the top plate is the one you see the most. It’s the one you interact with; it’s the one you most use. But learning, for us, we already know ALL the plates, but we’re taking the one from the bottom and putting it on the top.

Me: Oh, brilliant!

Erik: We’re just bringing that information closer. Remembering. Bringing it closer to the surface.

Me: That is such an awesome way to explain it!

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  • Steve

    Interesting, Texas seems just as corrupt as the US government, so what would seceding solve?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Well, we’re thriving, and more money seems to flow from Texas to the feds than vice versa. Texas is in fact shouldering the burden of those states that spent themselves into bankruptcy like California and New Jersey. Politics and corruption go hand in hand, but at least locally, it’s easier to hold our politicians accountable. Lesser of the two evils, I guess. We’d be better off.

  • Su

    Thanks for that great explanation Erik, about remembering. In shamanism and I’m sure many other teachings, we come to understand that we’re also here in our human lives not to learn new things as such but to remember, re-learn what we already know about ourselves, about who we truly are. The human experiance allows us to express what is already deep within the purity of our spiritual energy. We are here to keep unraveling..unstacking our plates and re-learning something from each one as we go…

  • M and M

    Interesting post, thanks again Elisa. I love the plate metaphor. Erik explains things so well- thank you for that Erik. So time can be something other than linear outside of our dimension, very interesting but makes sense based on Erik’s metaphor.

    For those that are feeling lost during this “shift”, there is an interesting post on another blog that I found to be helpful- hopefully it will help others too. The author of the Conscious Co-Creation blog (link- http://consciousco-creationalcoaching.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html) posted an interesting idea in her Aug 14 update, about “strays”, people who know the shift is coming but have no idea what their role will be and feel lost in the whole process. I find it helps to read about others going through the same thing, so hopefully some of you can find a little peace in it as well.

  • Candis

    Love it! I have always believed that real true learning was always more along the lines of an immersive osmosis-like process than a linear one. In fact the cult-like devotion to linear thinking is really sinking us all at the present moment, imo. Although linear thinking was a really helpful step in our evolution and still has it’s place in certain circumstances, it’s time to move on..again.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      YAY, no more textbooks and exams!!

  • Karen A

    I’m so glad Erik talked about humor. What a dull world it would be without it.
    I hate to get into the political arena here, but the part about Texas seceding from the US is a little scary. I have many relatives there and I would love to live in Austin, but at this point, Texas has some bad problems such as the highest number of residents without health insurance, one of the state with the highest child poverty rates, only second behind Mississippi in lowest number of residents with a High School Diploma. Also, corruption is rampant in Governor Perry’s Mansion and he literally sold his seat for special interests and wealthy individuals who financed his campaigns. They have lower unemployment than most states, however, most of the jobs are low paying service jobs with no benefits. Also these people who are looking to secede and want government out of their business are the first to want to ban birth control, abortion, immigration rights, environmental rights, gay and lesbian rights, womens rights, etc. So if they secede and base their state on Christianity (or their version of it), it may not be so free.
    Personally, I was hoping after the shift, more countries would ban together in unity and conform to human rights and not religious dogma that is fueling our country now.
    I was glad to see Arizona as one of the places for off the grid communities, as that is where I plan to relocate to in a couple years. I’m going to learn more about self sustaining so I’m not completely at a loss when the time comes.
    Love and Light to all.

  • Birdog

    Texas does not have a right to secede from the Union:

    http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/exhibits/annexation/part5/question11.html

  • http://www.channelingmyself.com Todd

    I live in Colorado. Was he showing you safe spots in Colorado or where the disaster will strike?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      No, not really. Probably anywhere is okay there.

  • Patrick

    Texas receives back about 80-85% of the $$ sent to Wash DC. (Specifically, about 25% of payroll, income and excise taxes sent do NOT come back in goods and services) Texas is a net donor by a large margin. As the 2nd largest state in population (25+ million) and as #1 in exports and job creation, this effectively makes Texas the ATM of Washington DC; no other large or even medium sized state is in this position, not even close.

    Texas has no state income tax, so if we STOP sending taxes – because we are The Republic of Texas – can we replicate with those funds what Washington DC does for Texas?

    So you can see, from a fiscal standpoint, secession makes terrific sense.

    Don’t worry, we’ll give y’all visas.

  • Patrick

    Forgot to mention – whooops! – we just passed a two year budget for 2011-12, which reduces state spending 8%, increases education spending 5.6% with no income tax, no other tax increases and we still have a surplus of $7+ billion.

    What other state gov’t (don’t even think federal) has reduced its size 8% with no income taxes and has held the line on sales taxes? We lead the nation on many economic fronts; there is a direct correlation. The population of Texas did not increase 5+ million (> 20% growth) in the last decade by accident (this figure excludes illegal aliens)

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      YAY Patrick!!! I LOVE TEXAS!!! No wonder other states’ officials/politicians are coming here to learn a little something about the way we do things!

  • Su

    Thanks for that blog link M and M, really interesting. Su

  • Candis

    Elisa – I suspect that there will still be exams, all of the time in fact, we just will not know when and where they are coming…true tests… but we are smart, wise, resilient, resourceful and strong, we l/earned it and we believe. We are good to go!

  • Yvonne

    I don’t know much about Texas except what my husband tells me – he is from San Antonio – that is is a land of service jobs, strong manufacturing with no union protection, big corporate Oil and lots of those evil government jobs. Sounds like heaven to me, LOL

    I am more curious about the community that will be forming from this blog – does it revolve around Erik and the words of Erik? What is the basis of the community’s organization and sense of self? I enjoy reading this blog but to create a community around a person, even a discarnate person, seems creepy and cult like. Then again, that is how Christianity was born…

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      No! It would just be a self-sustained community where anyone is welcome. It’s only purpose is to help each other out if and when the grid comes down. As far as I’m concerned, you can worship Charles Manson. There wouldn’t be any religious stuff, no statue of Erik, etc. This whole thing about the blog is meant not to focus on Erik or me. It’s purpose is bigger than both of us put together. All voices are heard and valued. But Yvonne, you’re in charge of the Koolaid Stand, okay? (grin)

  • Patrick

    Elisa’s exactly right – this would be an equal opportunity place. For each right wing nut we’ll have a left wing nut, a north corridor nut, southern nut, peanut, walnut and (gesundheit!) a cashew.

    Well, maybe we could have several on one side to balance the one on the other; since it’ll take three to level me out. (Except I’m hard core left on certain issues)

    Absolutely no gun cleaning 30 minutes or less before dinner, no tie die t-shirts at breakfast.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      LMAO, Patrick!!!

  • Pamie

    I will always love Texas because I met my husband there….I lived in Del Rio for two years before I met him and when he left the Air Force we came to California. Texans have always had an independent
    streak and they sure have their own way of doing things, LOL. Gotta love it!

  • http://www.endresphotos.com Endre

    While I don’t live in Texas, I have a number of friends that do. I don’t think that anyone is SERIOUSLY thinking about Texas seceding from the Union but all the economic data you cite, Patrick, is spot on. In the midst of this recession/depression Texas is booming, thanks entirely the foresight of Governor Perry and the pro-business legislature. If, as Yvonne, states – Texas is “a land of service jobs, strong manufacturing with no union protection, big corporate Oil and lots of those evil government jobs”, then I guess all those droves of high level executives (I know several personally) who are fleeing from California’s lovely weather to Texas’ heat are doing so in order to take short-order jobs at MacDonalds. The fact is, Texas is booming because it allows people who have an entrepreneurial spirit and who are sick of Federal and State government meddling in every detail of life the freedom to pursue their vision. Of course, to point that out on Huffpo is tantamount to blasphemy (even though it is true) so now that I have stirred up a hornet’s nest, I’m going to leave it at that. :-) ) LOL

    Love you, Elisa, Erik, and Patrick!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Hallelujah, Endre! And I think every one this blog should respect each other’s hopes and desires for their communities and states. If New Jersey wanted to do something wild and crazy for the good of its citizens, I’d give them my prayers and well wishes. Personally, I think things in the federal government would have to get pretty damn bad for Texas to secede. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don’t turn this into a scathing political debate. It was meant to be just a fun little question, like the bigfoot one.

  • Jane

    For anyone with time on their hands, whoever that might be lol, who might want to learn a bit about the power groups in TX I recommend Family of Secrets. Human rights and liberty are 2 sides of the same coin to me. I wish the good people of TX all the best, truly, and hope and pray for unity and compassion by all the people for each other as we go thru the shift.
    As always Erik is the man. He is truly impressive and I love how he is so loving and has always sought to help and be empathetic to others.

  • Melanie

    Wish i could be there. :(

  • Ryan

    Austin is where i dream of when I want to secede from life. Also the national beer should be Shiner Bock.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Agreed!

  • Dvora

    Today’s post made me super happy. We live in and love being in Texas. I actually started a new company today and hope that I will be able to put more Texans to work and provide them with hope and purpose. We are a big prayer state and I believe that it also has served Texas well. Houston in particular is a beautiful melting pot with most of the people living in harmony. I love that about our city. My husband wanted to buy land in Colorado years ago on our first family trip there. Guess we should have :) Never too late.

  • Eileen

    In one breath, talking about love, community and helping each other. In another breath, talking about separating Texas from the rest of the country. I thought we are all one and should be loving & helping each other, not trying to separate ourselves from one another.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      We can be separated economically and politically but united in every other way! Would you allow your family and friends to go down with a sinking ship for the sake of togetherness? Not me.

  • Steve

    But Texas took in billions of federal stimulus money, your population is growing, the new jobs are mainly minimum wage, and your state has the highest rate of uninsured workers, schools are in bad shape. The oil money and population growth are your main drivers. I don’t see how Texas would do very well on its own.

  • Birdog

    That link admits that even the Texas Constitution clearly states that Texas is “subject only to the Constitution of the United States…”, and of course the Constitution makes no provision for secession of any states. The Texas Constitution was adopted in 1876, after Texas had already been re-admitted to the Union, and no provision for secession was granted at either that time, or under its original admission back in 1845.

    You can certainly favor secession for Texas, but it would be a highly separative act, and unconstitutional, unless Congress acted to allow it. Do you really think fighting another Civil War is what would bring peace and love to earth and our country? Seems highly un-spiritual.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      No fight would be necessary! So does that mean since the world is divided into separate countries we’re unspiritual? I think it’s unspiritual to attack my desire for personal freedom.

  • Shawna

    Hello all! I just wanted to say about Texas and my experience with the economy here is its not that great. And we are really hurting with this drought we’re in. I know it could be a lot worse, but it’s not all that wonderful either. There are a lot of people out of work right now. And most of those places that are hiring are low paying, or they want you to do the work of about 2-3 people for the price of one (that’s why I left my last job),or they just want to hire you contract so they don’t have to pay you any benefits.

    There are so many die hard rich Republicans in Texas that just don’t want to do anything until Obama is out of office. I hear this from my dad- I know people sitting on millions but they don’t want to invest until he is out. Pretty freakin’ sad if you ask me.

    I have been out of work for 4 months now and it’s hard to find a descent job. You’re competing with so many. I know a lot of friends/family too that have been looking for a while and are starting to get depressed. I’m keeping the faith and knowing my angels are working with me on this and I’ll be okay. There is a lesson here and I’m working on it.

    I just left working for a non-profit organization with big time farmers and ranchers and most of them supported Gov. Perry. Yuk! I had to transcribe meeting minutes from the last board meeting they had where he spoke and the man is a joke. Scary to me to think he is running for President.

    Okay, I don’t want to get into politics anymore, because I’m starting to get anti-political and think they are all a joke. When I know that’s not the right way to think either. If Texas does become it’s own, I’ll probably be ready to leave.

    I don’t think that would create the 5D place that I’m looking forward too.

    Anyways, on a lighter note, I liked what Erik said about humor and it coming out because your full of love. I love to laugh and my boyfriend sometimes calls me a dork and I say that’s because I want to make you laugh. :)

    Hope everyone has a great weekend!

    Love & Light,
    Shawna

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      The reason they don’t want to invest is because there’s so much uncertainty now about the costs of healthcare, the future of taxes, the increase in regulations. These corporations are simply making business decisions, because it’s all about making a profit. As ugly as that is (and many corporations are VERY corrupt and awful), these companies are a collection of people, and without financial success, those people are out of work. As evil as some of them might be, they do provide employment. Now if they’d only stay here in America. And the dems are just as bad as the republicans. Look at their corrupt alliance with GE. They’re all a problem: corporations, politician, unions, ugh. Now, in Houston, we’re thriving. The malls are packed, the restaurants are overflowing, the “Now Hiring” signs are up everywhere for a wide range of jobs and pay scales.

  • Mary

    Hi Elisa, could you please ask Erik if the community in Colorado is Boulder?

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Okay!

  • Birdog

    No one is attacking your desire for personal freedom. Create your own separate country if you like just for yourself. It’s just that you seem to have a very limited and conventional notion of what freedom is based entirely on material things. Love, unity, cooperation, and tolerance are the hallmarks of freedom, not separation and the vanity of independence.

    Texas has been a part of this country for a very long time, and going backwards is not the answer, any more than it was in 1861. People need to learn to live with one another and cooperate, not divide and separate. That’s what democracy is about. The past structure of the world’s countries has indeed been about separation and intolerance, selfishness and a lack of cooperation. That needs to change for the better, not the worse.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      You have no idea what my notion of freedom is so don’t dare to presume you do. Why would you assume it’s all about materialism? And who’s to say that secession isn’t a step forward, not backward? I think you’re limited by your own tendency to assume. And when you say something would be a change for the better, think about who it would be better for. I take great offense at you assuming this is all about intolerance, selfishness, and a lack of cooperation. Clearly, you don’t know me well. Perhaps you would be happier allying yourself with a different blog, because you’re attacks don’t belong here, in this place of free expression and love. Please don’t post here again. This is not a forum for judgment.

  • Patrick

    Steve: You said a few things that SCREAM for correction…I can’t hold it in more!!! Aaaaargh!!

    “…Texas took in billions of federal stimulus money…” Texas is a net donor state. Texas takes NOTHING from the Federal government, everything Texas receives it receives BACK.

    “…your population is growing…” Exploding is a better word, up >20% in 1(one) decade,

    “..the new jobs are mainly minimum wage..” 5 million people moved here from the “upper 49″ to take minimum wage jobs?

    “…has the highest rate of uninsured workers..” uninsured for what?

    “…schools are in bad shape…” They are? How? Texas A&M, Baylor College of Medicine, The University of Texas, Southern Methodist University, Baylor University, Rice University, Texas Christian University, Texas Southern University, Prairie View A&M, Rice University…they all admit students from Indiana? Ohio?

    “..oil money and population growth are your main drivers….” Texas is the #1 export state in the USA. We don’t export oil. We both produce and send to other states and also export wheat, rice, cotton, beef, chicken, computers, chemicals, fertilizers, cars, trucks, plastics, paper, beer, wine, criminal illegal alien felons, power generation equipment, oil production equipment, tires, lumber, firearms, tomatoes, lettuce, corn, butter, cream, milk, medical equipment, mining equipment, industrial equipment, trailers, building materials and supplies, doctors, lawyers, presidents, common sense and success.

    We have the most healthy real estate market in the nation (probably the world) we lead the nation in job creation and we are the #1 employer in banking and financial services.

    Our unemployment rate is 20-25% lower then the national average; we have a multi-billion $$ surplus (not in debt, in other words) we have NO income tax for business or for individual residents.

    We have the most favorable personal protection laws in the USA – your house, salary and retirement savings cannot be taken from you in civil court no matter what.

    We have the lowest prisoner escape rate in the nation. We have the most strict laws and highest conviction rate for firearms offenses in the USA.

    We have the BEST ice cream in the USA.

    We have Elisa and Rune Medhus.

    Shall I continue?

    OK, two major airlines are headquartered here. The largest foreign investment ever made in the history of the USA is here. The tallest monument in the world is here. NASA is here. The biggest selling recording artist of all time is from here. The greatest golfer of all time is from here. The most decorated soldier of all time is from here.

    Texas is NOT perfect, but it’s more perfect than anyplace else in the USA; 5 million people moved for for good reasons.

    This is going to make some heads explode: all this success came under Governors George Walker Bush and James Richard Perry. That’s 17 years total under these two men and we’re fixin’ to send the second one north to show y’all how we do it.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      YAY PATRICK! Plus people FROM Texas are nice! No facade, no image protection. They tend to open their arms to people, wear their hearts on their sleeves and pour out southern hospitality to all.

  • Birdog

    Gotta love that reply. All in favor of free expression, post elsewhere, you’re not welcome here!

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      Free respectful expression, yes, rudeness, insults and judgments, no. Surprised you don’t understand the difference! Hm.

  • Shawna

    I’m really hurt by some of the remarks here. There has been too much ego here, I think it’s time for me to go for a while. Elisa, you’re getting too defensive and political.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I ask one freaking question about Texas just for fun and I get slammed with insults. I’m sick of all this. It’s you guys that have the egos. I haven’t done anything wrong and I do not deserve this. I’m done with the blog until I get treated with some semblance of respect and until my posts don’t evoke silly tantrums from people

  • jon besson

    Your feelings,the loss of respect for you ,the insults are because of your silly political Tea party tantrums.You ,your blog,believers,are all victims of your POLITICAL ADGENDA.

    • http://drmedhus.com Elisa

      I don’t know what the heck you mean. Part of an entry about Texas drew nasty comments, I replied to them. So it’s okay to insult someone who disagrees with your views? I can’t believe you actually think this! I’ve opened my heart and soul (and my wallet) for people like you. I’m so heartbroken I would NEVER say anything that cruel to you.

  • amy cavanaugh

    yikes- Elisa is now accused of channelingmichellebachman – very unfortunate end to a wonderful experience

  • getlaura

    Wow. I’m pretty sure last time I checked this was a blog about channeling Erik. I don’t care what party you are, what state you’re from or what you had for dinner. This is Elisa’s blog and you all need to simmer down. Not all my beliefs align with Elisa’s, but I certainly don’t go about the business of arguing with her about it. There are plenty of political and religious blogs to go argue a point on, this isn’t one of those blogs. There are ways to disagree without being condescending and nasty about it. Basically, don’t walk in and shit on someone’s carpet if they invite you in.

  • Liz

    Make mine cherry-flavored! =)